Would you trade new ingame content for an engine upgrade?

[Illmaeran]

I'd be willing to take a delay in the next expansion in exchange for them updating the game to have a more solid and easily accessed foundation. Hell, I'd even give a one-time $15-20 payment if it went specifically toward staff to do the update.

Some of the graphics need to be improved, for sure, but what I think the game needs more than anything is a whole new foundation capable of modification and adaptation going forward.

I don't think it's wise to change an art direction mid game, but if we were just talking in general- I kind of hope they can make their next one look more 'art-like' akin to the concept art they use themselves.

I agree! I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the next FF MMO be in the Amano style like they did with Hydaelyn and Endsinger/Meteion. Given Amano's history with the franchise, no art style says Final Fantasy more than his.

[BokoToloko]

Absolutely not. While I would love if SE improved the engine on the technical side (glamour dresser, clunky menu, still having to confirm certain interaction during duties, inventory issues and so on), all of that is literally worthless if there isn't content to keep people in place. MMORPG live and die by the content they add and if there is no content, most players will simply have no real reason to keep paying their subscriptions.

I'd rather have smaller updates on the engines rather than sacrificing content for a big overhaul. Fix the problems one at a time and only modify the engine when the issue cannot be fixed (as in, actually fixed and not applied bandaid solutions) without touching the engine. You don't dismantle the whole car to fix it, you address the faulty parts one at a time.

And if the game itself gets old and loses subscribers? I don't have a problem with it. When the time comes for a game to die of age, it just means you have to let it go. Trying to infinitely extend a game's lifespan hardly ends well, in terms of quality.

[splinter1545]

I totally would. It could be incremental too rather than a full blown new engine on one patch. But the game has a lot of technical limitations that they basically need to do something about that, or else this game can never really reach its true potential.

[jamjeeshoul77]

What’s with all these posts about people asking for less content in exchange for something? First people were asking for no more new jobs, BUT update old ones. Now people are asking for no new content for 2 years, BUT update the engine

Lmao are you people insane? That would effectively kill the game and 2 years later a huuuge portion of the playerbase will have completely lost interest. Some of these threads lately are absolutely baffling

[Krotoan]

What’s with all these posts about people asking for less content in exchange for something? First people were asking for no more new jobs, BUT update old ones. Now people are asking for no new content for 2 years, BUT update the engine

Lmao are you people insane? That would effectively kill the game and 2 years later a huuuge portion of the playerbase will have completely lost interest. Some of these threads lately are absolutely baffling

In general it's been demonstrated SE is unwilling or unable to simply increase output and resources for FFXIV. Therefor most of the people who've stuck around or payed attention see things as drawing from a fixed budget, I.E if you want something new or different, you must take from something established.

Just for perspective. Would everyone here like it if this game suddenly became SE's main pet project and content flowed like a tidal wave? Oh yes. Do we all understand that this isn't going to happen unless where the devil lives gets really cold really fast? also yes.

[Ilegorn]

Personally I don't see why there needs to be a tradeoff. Yoshi P. Doesn't work on the game all by himself and SE is not some indie developer that is just starting to make money. Upgrading the game to a new engine could be done on the side by a different team of engineers. Sure it would cost more, but SE is already making more and if they require more sources of income then adding more glams or mounts to the Mog Station is always a viable option. I wouldn't sacrifice years without a new expansion, mainly because new expansion releases are the core of SE income as not every single player reminds subscribed all year-round. Without new content the game would also bleed subscribers many of which may never return. Two year is a long time.

There is also the "Modern MMO standards", this needs to be defined. If you mean make another Korean mmo is stupidly advance graphics that most people's PC's can't run and such a heavy investment in visual effects that the budget for actually gameplay is scarified then I rather stick to the old. The game does need an engine revamp sure, but I wouldn't trade new core content or gameplay for it.

[Johners]

I'd trade PS4 support at this stage and Endwalker should really be the last platform for that console. All aboard the PS5 and modern PC train for FFXIV.

[Ath192]

What’s with all these posts about people asking for less content in exchange for something? First people were asking for no more new jobs, BUT update old ones. Now people are asking for no new content for 2 years, BUT update the engine

Lmao are you people insane? That would effectively kill the game and 2 years later a huuuge portion of the playerbase will have completely lost interest. Some of these threads lately are absolutely baffling

We’re not insane. We’re experienced. Yoshi P has stated multiple times a job like this would take from the development of the game in several areas.

Also, you’re patently wrong about this killing the game. Do you even know the game you are playing and it’s history? It launched in 2010 and it was an utter failure. It took several years to rebuild with new systems and relaunched in 2013 and pretty much everyone returned.

Not only did people wait for the relaunch, myself included, but the complete overhaul of the game has made it one of the most successful games in MMO history.

This game has a historical precedent that taking a step back, reworking it, and launching it can be done extremely successfully.

Bandaid fixes are what we have with the glamour system because to fix things properly you do have to revamp the fundamentals.

No one’s arguing it would be a colossal job. The question is whether the players want more of the same or wait a bit and get an overhaul.

[Haruka_R]

The "#1 MMO" should have a better engine. Everything is so limited, restricted, stale, and mediocre. Dunno how they can possibly keep this up for another 10 years with their current engine.

[Baxcel]

Been saying fir a while now, since 6.0 finished the story they should skip a few patches an fix the game.. fix classes, fix chrs an fix systems