Thread: 0.01 drop rates need to die in a fire

Seriously.

Sometimes it feels like the biggest challenge in this game isn't garuda, or the newest raid, or hamlet defense, or <insert whatever here>, it's beating the random number generator.

There are tons of ways to prolong the life of content without making someone feel like they have to repeat it 1000 times to maybe, hopefully get any kind of desireable reward from it.

Earning points is my personal favorite. e.g. conquest points, einherjar points, legion points, yada yada. The best contents in FFXI used a system like this, at the very least to augment the random drops.

The totem system helps a little bit, but the drop rates on those are just as horrendus when you consider how many you need.

Even the most fun content can be ruined by <1% drop rates. Something is only going to be fun so many times, promise of reward or not. So why make people continue to beat their heads against something after they've already milked the fun value out of it?

I truly, truly hope that they're simply trying to stretch out version 1.x content to keep us busy until 2.0 and that things will get a little less enraging after that.

I really enjoy this game outside of this problem. Reward needs to be consummerate with risk. Make a challenging event, decent chance of a good reward. Make an easier content, either lower chance of good reward or better chance of not quite as good reward.

MMORPGs in general need to come up with better ways to make their content last than by making you battle the random number generator and lose.

i rather collect a type of currency in instances to trade in for a "drop" that way no repeats that will go to waste.

kill mobs they drop currency get enough then talk to some NPC to buy a "drop", bosses drop big money.

not another one of those threads...

Originally Posted by TheVedis

The reason for low drop rates is because people said they wanted no cooldown on re-entering these instances

so maybe people should question our ability to do that first

Although I usually don't care for your comments, I'd say I have to agree with you on this one. You can thank all the people who want instant reentry timers for the shitty drop rates.

Personally, I'd much rather a system similar to Limbus (FFXI). 72 hour lockout, farm 1 key per session (chances are we wouldn't be able to split up two parties in XIV with the way instances work), 4 keys required for the boss(s), boss drops are 100% (1-2). Keeps shit rare and always rewards you for your efforts.

But again, don't expect to see anything like that in FFXIV, and you know who to thank for it~

Originally Posted by TheVedis

The reason for low drop rates is because people said they wanted no cooldown on re-entering these instances

so maybe people should question our ability to do that first

Well then, I'd rather do something once or twice a day and have better drop rates than do it as many times as I want and have horrible rates.

Keep the minimal cooldown between entries, but cap the number of times per day, depending on the specific fight. Say, 3 primal wins per day. then up the drop rate accordingly. This way, while you might still need the same amount of real time (e.g. in days) to earn an item, it can be done while playing the content a few times a day instead of as many times as possible. this also balances the content for people who have tons of time and people who don't.

72 hour lockout

No. Not a multi-day cooldown. Just a set number of times per day (say, 2-3 wins of each primal fight per day, 5 hamlet defense wins per battle phase. This way you still have the flexibility to schedule the event when you want.

how about adjusting drop rates to x% divided by number of wins over last 24 or Y hours?