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    ... That salt rock is photoshopped, right? It's been years, but I feel like I'd remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Don’t tempt me Sidurgu, I will find a way to not shut up that I can promise.

    An interesting fact would be about that hundred Gil coin we see in game, it is stamped with the face of not a monarch or historical figure, but with Nymeia the Spinner, which was decided by a council of experts. Gil itself has its origins in the Allagan Empire but was readopted in the Sixth Astral Era as a universal currency.
    again almost everything ties back into the allagans lol. though its a surprise nymeia was chosen instead of naldthal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    ... That salt rock is photoshopped, right? It's been years, but I feel like I'd remember that.
    It was indeed, lol. This however wasn’t.



    Quote Originally Posted by sidurgu-12 View Post
    again almost everything ties back into the allagans lol. though its a surprise nymeia was chosen instead of naldthal.
    Agreed! Though perhaps because Uldah likes Naldthal in particular it would’ve been seen as too biased in their favor.
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    Nymeia is the goddess of luck after all though, and a coin is very symbolic of that, so it makes sense to have her visage on the 'heads' side (also, she was not worshipped by any of the citystates, save for that brief time in Ala Mhigo, so it might have been decided to choose her as a neutral figure rather than 'playing favourites' with another deity who happened to be a guardian of one of the cities, like Nald'thal).

    Also, I suspect gil is far older than even the Allag, seeing that npcs back in Elpis give it in quest rewards and that gil is accepted by the stores there (altough that could just be for gameplay purposes, like in ShB how G'raha said the stores in Norvrandt would accept gil even though it's not their native currency due to the relative value), and, given that the Allag was founded by Emet originally....

    That's just my own musings though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Nymeia is the goddess of luck after all though, and a coin is very symbolic of that, so it makes sense to have her visage on the 'heads' side (also, she was not worshipped by any of the citystates, save for that brief time in Ala Mhigo, so it might have been decided to choose her as a neutral figure rather than 'playing favourites' with another deity who happened to be a guardian of one of the cities, like Nald'thal).

    Also, I suspect gil is far older than even the Allag, seeing that npcs back in Elpis give it in quest rewards and that gil is accepted by the stores there (altough that could just be for gameplay purposes, like in ShB how G'raha said the stores in Norvrandt would accept gil even though it's not their native currency due to the relative value), and, given that the Allag was founded by Emet originally....

    That's just my own musings though.
    Ooooo good point. I can see Emet being the type to have an old friend used as the basis for Menphinas portrait as little act of remembrance. I’ll be interested if anything from the Twelve Raid series will impact that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Nymeia is the goddess of luck after all though, and a coin is very symbolic of that, so it makes sense to have her visage on the 'heads' side (also, she was not worshipped by any of the citystates, save for that brief time in Ala Mhigo, so it might have been decided to choose her as a neutral figure rather than 'playing favourites' with another deity who happened to be a guardian of one of the cities, like Nald'thal).

    Also, I suspect gil is far older than even the Allag, seeing that npcs back in Elpis give it in quest rewards and that gil is accepted by the stores there (altough that could just be for gameplay purposes, like in ShB how G'raha said the stores in Norvrandt would accept gil even though it's not their native currency due to the relative value), and, given that the Allag was founded by Emet originally....

    That's just my own musings though.
    Hmm. Maybe there's even something inherent to Nymeia's presence on the Gil that makes it more valuable... or makes it seem more valuable? It is just a coin to most, objectively, but with the blessing of the Goddess of Fate it is recognized as universally valuable. Almost universally valuable, at least, for notably groups like the Beast Tribes do not accept Gil except for more basic items, so there could be something to them that negates said blessing such as their choice to worship their Primals instead. Big think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beytran70 View Post
    It is just a coin to most, objectively, but with the blessing of the Goddess of Fate it is recognized as universally valuable.
    The Eorzean goddess of fate. Why would it have any inherent meaning at all to a culture that doesn't revere the Twelve?

    Personally, Gil being a not just universal, but multiversal currency is one of those things I just sort of hand wave away as a gameplay convenience thing. Lore need not apply (see also, aetherytes in Elpis, etc.)
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    The coins can just be valuable because of the metal in them. That's the official explanation for why our money is accepted in the First, and can easily apply anywhere else that Eorzean currency is unlikely to be valued in its own right.
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    Right. It's incredibly unlikely that gil has existed for thousands of years and is actually the common currency the world over. I mean, who would regulate it, mint it? How would it get to all the obscure places where vendors exist in the first place? It's much more likely that Thavnair, Hingashi, etc all have their own money but accept and pay out Eorzean gil as a gameplay convenience. Are those NPCs in Yanxia really giving me gil as a quest reward, or are they giving me the local currency and the game converts it automatically for ease of use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    The Eorzean goddess of fate. Why would it have any inherent meaning at all to a culture that doesn't revere the Twelve?

    Personally, Gil being a not just universal, but multiversal currency is one of those things I just sort of hand wave away as a gameplay convenience thing. Lore need not apply (see also, aetherytes in Elpis, etc.)
    I whole heartedly agree with the "don't confuse gameplay and lore", BUT don't forget Azim and Azeyma do sound a lot like like Azem. We just might meet Nymphea or whatever, Azem's best side chick, that travelled with them or whatever and eventually got remembered as the goddess of fate much like Azem became the representation of dawn/the sun. I'm not saying it's a fact, just that we can't conclude yet that Nymeia is revered only in Eorzea, but may be revered in other continents under another name.
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