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    FFXIV on Mac and Steam account linking

    My account type is Steam because I started playing this game on Windows. However, I since switched to Mac and have been playing this game for years using the Mac version. FFXIV is not available on Steam on the Mac. The recent changes described here would mean that I'd have to launch FFXIV through Steam, making it inoperable on the Mac. In addition, I wouldn't be able to switch to PS5 at my leisure since it is also incompatible. Why is Square Enix doing this and what is the remedy? Does Square Enix mean to prohibit cross-platform players who have Steam-type accounts, or is the announcement just poorly-worded?

    This is what I mean by cross-platform players for Steam account holders. I have three platforms that I can play the game on, but only one of them run Steam.

    (I am posting this in the General Discussion forum to raise this issue in the hopes that we get clarification.)
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 02-10-2022 at 11:48 PM.

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    If you have any issues with the recent changes there are a lot of us also upset about it, over here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...one-PC-License.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    My account type is Steam because I started playing this game on Windows. However, I since switched to Mac and have been playing this game for years using the Mac version.

    If you're running it on mac you have a mac license right? this won't effect you unless you go to play using your steam license on windows. There is no singular "Account type"
    unless of course you're running your steam version on mac using some hackjob of wine and fixes yourself, either way you have misinterpreted the whole account type thing.
    Check your licenses on the mogstation.
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    I likely won't see your replies to my posts so if it's important, /tell Lem Ayase@Kujata .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemage View Post
    If you're running it on mac you have a mac license right? this won't effect you unless you go to play using your steam license on windows. There is no singular "Account type"
    unless of course you're running your steam version on mac using some hackjob of wine and fixes yourself, either way you have misinterpreted the whole account type thing.
    Check your licenses on the mogstation.
    Account type is Standard (Steam). I uploaded a screenshot that shows it. There are two account types, Standard and Standard (Steam). All three platforms are available under each. Buying the game on a different platform doesn’t change your account type. The announcement suggests that Steam account holders can only log in via PC barring the other two platforms. There isn’t yet a mechanism to switch account types or transfer characters.
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    It's not going to affect the PS and Mac versions of the game. Your account type is standard (steam), because your windows license is locked to Steam and that's just how SE chooses to display it.

    The game has checked if the game is a steam version for a long time already (tho it's been easy to bypass, if you wanted to play SE store version with a steam license). What SE is going to be doing now is also checking for the steam ID used to launch the game.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 02-11-2022 at 12:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    It's not going to affect the PS and Mac versions of the game. Your account type is standard (steam), because your windows license is locked to Steam and that's just how SE chooses to display it.

    The game has checked if the game is a steam version for a long time already (tho it's been easy to bypass, if you wanted to play SE store version with a steam license). What SE is going to be doing now is also checking for the steam ID used to launch the game.
    are we gonna have to input our cd keys again? which should already be put into mogstation showing what version we have already, i think this is a little heavy handed, i know why they are doing this, its trying to make the new housing coming in 6.1 more fair, but even so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    are we gonna have to input our cd keys again? which should already be put into mogstation showing what version we have already, i think this is a little heavy handed, i know why they are doing this, its trying to make the new housing coming in 6.1 more fair, but even so
    Why would you have to? The only thing that is changing is that when you launch the game via Steam, details about the Steam account being used to launch the game are sent to the game servers. If the sent data does not match what SE has registered, the login is refused.

    What happens right now with steam version is:
    - You launch the game via Steam
    - The launcher starts with an extra argument that tells the program that it was launched via Steam
    - When the client is started, the same steam argument is given to it
    - When you login to datacenter, if the -issteam argument is present, the game will ask for service accounts that have a Windows (Steam) license attached to them. If it doesn't find one, because for example, your Windows copy is not the Steam version, you will get an error.
    - If the -issteam argument is not present, the game will ask for service accounts that have a non-Steam Windows license attached to them. If it doesn't find one, because for example, your Windows copy is the Steam version, you will get an error.

    As a result, it is impossible to launch the game via Steam, if you have a non-Steam Windows copy. In theory, it is also not possible to launch the game without doing so via Steam, if you have a Steam copy, but this has so far been trivial to bypass by starting the launcher by manually adding the -issteam argument when executing the launcher.

    What SE is gonna do is that when the game is launched via Steam, some Steam token is also sent to the launcher and passed to the server on login. If this token is not what it should be (the Steam account used to buy the game), the server will not allow the login to proceed.

    This has nothing to do with 6.1 housing. What it does is make it impossible to login to the PC version if you are not logged in to the buyer's Steam account, if your PC version is the Steam version. It has no effect on other platforms or the non-Steam Windows version.

    If you have the Steam version of the game and you fell for one of the giveaway scams etc. the scammer will not be able to login to your character with just your SE account details, they need your Steam details too. Sure, they will start asking for those too, but it increases suspicion and people are less likely to fall for it. They could also still login on PS or Mac, if you have the license, but that's not how these scammers operate, it's just too slow.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 02-11-2022 at 04:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    are we gonna have to input our cd keys again? which should already be put into mogstation showing what version we have already, i think this is a little heavy handed, i know why they are doing this, its trying to make the new housing coming in 6.1 more fair, but even so
    That's interesting. How does this change relate to housing?
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