In March Linux Proton Users Will No Longer Be Able to Play The Game

[PenguinPropaganda]

When world of Warcraft was in beta, there was Linux support by hobbyist devs, but no official support.

Their reasons cited were the sheer numbers of distros and kernel versions plus customizations that can render the game unplayable from one setup to the next.

Linux is a pain in the butt to develop for.

Thats why there is almost never official support.

1) I run my business on Linux and develop using the OS daily so it's not 'a pain in the butt to develop for'

2) There is literally no development needed it already works fine

All I've asked for them to do is not require a launcher that uses MSHTML (which itself is already outdated)

Honestly, if this doesn't affect you, why are you commenting here?
This thread is not for you so go back to doing what you are doing and stop trolling here.

This discussion was to alert folks to the problem, not get into an argument with someone about the viability of an operating system.
You like Windows? Great, keep using it, nobody said you had to stop using it to enjoy your game.

[Ransu]

Good. Stop trying to play games on Linux.

[HereInPlainSight]

Their reasons cited were the sheer numbers of distros and kernel versions plus customizations that can render the game unplayable from one setup to the next.

No one is realistically asking for devs to target Linux as a whole. People are asking them not to hose Proton compatibility, which is a much more stable -- and more importantly, static -- target.

Good. Stop trying to play games on Linux.

I love how you effectively just said 'stop trying to play games on the Steam Deck,' which is, by design, made to play games on Linux, made by the largest distribution platform of PC games around. Nice. Makes you sound like you're really here with a good faith argument.

In other news -- the game itself works great in Linux. Solid performance. The new launcher's a cludge of outdated technology and the game already packs CEF into every install, which lets Linux run the old launcher just fine. (I'm pretty sure the default installation via Steam still activates the old launcher for compatibility, even.) Just allow Steam users to opt out of this change and there's no problem -- not for Linux users or for Windows users who don't want to have to launch through Steam, for any one of a number of reasons people have been outlining in the other thread. Square will have done its due diligence in trying to honor contracts with Valve while still allowing users to have the final say in whether or not they want this particular brand of security.

[Imora]

1) I run my business on Linux and develop using the OS daily so it's not 'a pain in the butt to develop for'

2) There is literally no development needed it already works fine

All I've asked for them to do is not require a launcher that uses MSHTML (which itself is already outdated)

Honestly, if this doesn't affect you, why are you commenting here?
This thread is not for you so go back to doing what you are doing and stop trolling here.

This discussion was to alert folks to the problem, not get into an argument with someone about the viability of an operating system.
You like Windows? Great, keep using it, nobody said you had to stop using it to enjoy your game.

I never once gave a personal opinion on linux.

I gave a major developer's opinion on linux.

And your dev standpoint has nothing to do with the eleventy billion homebrew tinkered versions of linux. THAT is what the problem is.

Not my fault you don't like it.

[Imora]

No one is realistically asking for devs to target Linux as a whole. People are asking them not to hose Proton compatibility, which is a much more stable -- and more importantly, static -- target.



I love how you effectively just said 'stop trying to play games on the Steam Deck,' which is, by design, made to play games on Linux, made by the largest distribution platform of PC games around. Nice. Makes you sound like you're really here with a good faith argument.

In other news -- the game itself works great in Linux. Solid performance. The new launcher's a cludge of outdated technology and the game already packs CEF into every install, which lets Linux run the old launcher just fine. (I'm pretty sure the default installation via Steam still activates the old launcher for compatibility, even.) Just allow Steam users to opt out of this change and there's no problem -- not for Linux users or for Windows users who don't want to have to launch through Steam, for any one of a number of reasons people have been outlining in the other thread. Square will have done its due diligence in trying to honor contracts with Valve while still allowing users to have the final say in whether or not they want this particular brand of security.

Perfectly understandable.

I'm not entirely sure they thought this one through, honestly, but it doesn't surprise me.

[BristolRuss]

I love how you effectively just said 'stop trying to play games on the Steam Deck,' which is, by design, made to play games on Linux

I believe you can install Windows on the Steamdeck, correct? So it should be entirely possible to play FFXIV on it by using a supported operating system rather than an unsupported one.

[Raoabolic]

All I can say is that Dalmund does what SE doesn't.

[BristolRuss]

All I can say is that Dalmund does what SE doesn't.

You'll still need to have Steam open and logged into the right account even with the XIVLauncher.

[HereInPlainSight]

I believe you can install Windows on the Steamdeck, correct? So it should be entirely possible to play FFXIV on it by using a supported operating system rather than an unsupported one.

You're aware that Windows itself is the 'unsupported OS' for the SteamDeck, correct? If we're going to get into the 'don't install unsupported things,' here's the situation:

Windows is able to be installed on the SteamDeck, but it is not supported.

Linux is able to install XIV, but it is not supported.

So it's not that you have a problem with unsupported things, apparently? Why do you find one method which is not supported acceptable but not another?

Personally, I'm expecting to see some Olympic-level gymnastics, here.

[BristolRuss]

You're aware that Windows itself is the 'unsupported OS' for the SteamDeck, correct? If we're going to get into the 'don't install unsupported things,' here's the situation:

Windows is able to be installed on the SteamDeck, but it is not supported.

Linux is able to install XIV, but it is not supported.

So it's not that you have a problem with unsupported things, apparently? Why do you find one method which is not supported acceptable but not another?

Personally, I'm expecting to see some Olympic-level gymnastics, here.

I'm not suggesting should install Windows on a Steamdeck, just that it is an option - and the only one that SE will support.

I am not anti Linux or pro Windows. I sympathize with the people that this will affect. But at the end of the day it is SE's game, and if they want to make changes that doesn't violate the ToS then that is their prerogative. They don't support Linux as a platform and so Linux users can't complain too loudly if they are suddenly cut off. That is a risk you were taking by playing on an unsupported system.