No one logged in today because of Lost Ark

[Gothicshark]

Everything I've heard of Lost Ark, has me thinking it will go the way of Blade & Soul inside 3 months. Unless the MMO is a Subscription Model 1st, I have no interest in it. But on top of that I compare every MMO to City of Heroes. If it is better than COH in 2007 than I will play it, if it is not better than COH in 2012 I will forget it's name. Every piece of info I have heard about Lost Ark, falls in Standard Korean MMO pay2win model, which means it looks good, plays like an arcade game, has casino slot machine sound effects for premium stuff, gender locked, slut wear on the girls, Ego fantasy for the guys, story written by an EMO 9th grader who wants to be Sasuke.

So like... BDO, B&S, Astellia, Tera, Elsword, Lineage2, and others, Final Fantasy 14 has nothing to fear. I would say if anyone could get the rights to City of Heroes, and reboot that game it would be the real contender, not some generic Korean Fantasy MMO.

[jameseoakes]

From what I understand there are only 2 classes that are not genderlocked, martial artist and gunners. But even they have gender-locked advanced upgrades so its just more needless restrictions.

The whole situation is ridiculous and as a result I do not consider the game worthy of my time.

Ewwww, I much agree with you there good to know I can safely ignore this game it sounds terrible

[LittleImp]

The truth is the vast majority of games are an ephemeral experience. There's nothing wrong with having fun with a game with no intention of making it your main game and putting thousands of hours into it.

If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, but let's not act like people are doing something wrong by enjoying their time with it.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

The truth is the vast majority of games are an ephemeral experience. There's nothing wrong with having fun with a game with no intention of making it your main game and putting thousands of hours into it.

If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, but let's not act like people are doing something wrong by enjoying their time with it.

Well said. But if the Lost Ark model is successful, and lets be honest it will be...Other gaming companies will start to adopt this model in the west.

[MidnightEquinox]

> plays like an arcade game

I got that feeling pretty strongly with it... Nothing obviously wrong but weirdly off... you click things, get rewards, everything shiny. And, ugh, I hate the red dots on everything, "go look at this please", I already have to turn that crap off on my phone.

[StriderShinryu]

From what I understand there are only 2 classes that are not genderlocked, martial artist and gunners. But even they have gender-locked advanced upgrades so its just more needless restrictions.

Yeah, the gender locking is pretty absurd. Even the classes that do have multiple gender options don't really have multiple gender options because the male and female variants of the class just share an archetype more than anything. Their moves and skills (and even general aesthetics) are different even if they are both "martial artists" or "gun slingers."

[Gothicshark]

The truth is the vast majority of games are an ephemeral experience. There's nothing wrong with having fun with a game with no intention of making it your main game and putting thousands of hours into it.

If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, but let's not act like people are doing something wrong by enjoying their time with it.

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Blade & Soul on release had excellent gameplay, was fun to play, they did a lot of things right, but what they did wrong ruined the game, it was fun for 3 months, wont go back. Same can be said for every Quality Korean MMO, they hit 90% of what everyone wants, but that last 10% usually will spoil the game for all except a specific subset of people.

Gender locking, Sexism, bad writing, Pay2Win, Slot machine mechanics, predatory cash shop mechanics. If you want an MMO to cost $2000 a month, and want your characters to look like something from a X-rated magazine than sure it's a game for you, if you don't want to spend 2k a month, and don't want to live the playboy fantasy it's not for you.

[Driavna]

Well said. But if the Lost Ark model is successful, and lets be honest it will be...Other gaming companies will start to adopt this model in the west.

Too late for that I'm afraid.

[Gothicshark]

Well said. But if the Lost Ark model is successful, and lets be honest it will be...Other gaming companies will start to adopt this model in the west.

Pay2win arcade style MMOs are the only games being released these days, and many of the older once great MMOs are now on that business model. I would say Lost Arc will have no effect on Western MMO models, as it is no different. It's a generic Fantasy Action MMO with lip service to RPG, it runs all the predatory pay2win mechanics invented by Korean and Chinese game companies, and it will hook a bunch of players for about 3 months, when it drops off the radar as the next MMO comes out. Every 6 months since Rifts there has been the "OMG WOW KILLER" MMO, and all but 3 are forgotten.

The three not forgotten: Guild Wars2, Star Wars TOR, ESO

Note FFXIV was never billed as a WOW killer, and ironically it's early failure and slow build up is unique in MMOs.

Also if you search the top rated MMOs of all time not many came out after 2011, the vast majority of the best rated MMOs were released between 2001 and 2011. Yet every few months we get the next great MMO hypetrain, and they have almost always disappointed.

[Conundrum]

Seeing how some of this game's fans are acting on other forums...I may actually die of schadenfreude when it's population numbers come crashing back to Earth after a few days/weeks.