No one logged in today because of Lost Ark

[Starshower]

You have to realize Lost Ark is already huge in other regions, and one of the few mmos that are actually growing in population, like FF. It actually has staying power this time, it's not just another korean mmo. I'm not a big raider, and I thought Lost Ark had all it's focus on hard raids, but it actually has a lot of other things to do as well, and it's been a lot of fun playing it. I've been quite bored with ff, and I'll be back for 6.1 of course, but lost ark has so much fun content right now that it's making FF look dull by comparison for me.


For FF players, the major con is that you can't freely customize your character, as in you have gender locked classes with no race selection, and there is the isometric top down view. You can zoom in on your character but it's not like FF where you have full control of the camera. Also there is not really a glamour system with the freedom FF provides. I think the in-world immersion and RP potential of FF are way superior, where you feel like you're actually in that world. That makes it so there is no chance Lost Ark will do serious harm to the player numbers of FF.


But the pros... Just by virtue of being a new game there are tons of content to do, if you like minigames and collecting things, raiding and pvp, the game has a ton of that. The combat in Lost Ark is action based, and really fun. It's fun to kill random mobs with no reward at all for example just because the combat is so spectacular. I think the combat can easily carry this game and since it's free to play I can see myself playing that with no pressure just because I'm having fun, I really don't intend on forcing myself to be the best raider or something like that.

[MidnightEquinox]

Can you explain how it's not a problematic game to play or without typical trappings of Korean like games? Besides "well other people play it!" which doesn't really tell me much. It is very grindy, yes? It has P2W, yes? It has lootboxes, yes? It's hardly the first game of its type.

> I think the combat can easily carry this game

I loved the combat in NW and that was not at all enough to carry it. Ultimately, MMORPGs do not live and die neither by combat nor by graphics.

[Momo_Kozuki]

I expect Lost Ark, being a more tolerable Korean MMORPG, will gain a moderate success. When every game of Korean MMORPG genre is a freemium grindfest with pay-to-progress, people would prefer a better one, even slightly.


And no, not gonna play it. Coming from blade and soul with a similar model and same "play 5+ alts to funnel main", I'm sick of having a game as my second job. And I feel any money thrown at Korean MMORPGs is a waste with their love for RNG/excessively-grindfest upgrade.

[Ravor]

Well even i started playing age of empire 2 again and will soon start trying age of empire 4, i only log in in ff14 for pandemonium normal and filling astronomy tomestone, also slow progress with monster Hunt, the thing with ff14 is even if i stop playing for a week or month, i can back again easily and not losing any progress of anything at all

[Skiros]

Its a better competitive game.

For real, the Gunlancer job has more depth than all of FF14's tanks combined. I miss that HW complexity and I'm finding it in Lost Ark now. I haven't got to endgame yet but I'm already impressed with the job design. I honestly wish Lost Ark succeeds so SE will learn from Lost Ark's strengths. Lost Ark borrows so much from FF14 after all.

[Skiros]

You have to realize Lost Ark is already huge in other regions, and one of the few mmos that are actually growing in population, like FF. It actually has staying power this time, it's not just another korean mmo. I'm not a big raider, and I thought Lost Ark had all it's focus on hard raids, but it actually has a lot of other things to do as well, and it's been a lot of fun playing it. I've been quite bored with ff, and I'll be back for 6.1 of course, but lost ark has so much fun content right now that it's making FF look dull by comparison for me.


For FF players, the major con is that you can't freely customize your character, as in you have gender locked classes with no race selection, and there is the isometric top down view. You can zoom in on your character but it's not like FF where you have full control of the camera. Also there is not really a glamour system with the freedom FF provides. I think the in-world immersion and RP potential of FF are way superior, where you feel like you're actually in that world. That makes it so there is no chance Lost Ark will do serious harm to the player numbers of FF.


But the pros... Just by virtue of being a new game there are tons of content to do, if you like minigames and collecting things, raiding and pvp, the game has a ton of that. The combat in Lost Ark is action based, and really fun. It's fun to kill random mobs with no reward at all for example just because the combat is so spectacular. I think the combat can easily carry this game and since it's free to play I can see myself playing that with no pressure just because I'm having fun, I really don't intend on forcing myself to be the best raider or something like that.

Agreed with everything. The job design is truly amazing. Does everything FF14 is failing at. It's funny because for a game with no hard aggro requirement this game has a more complex tanking mechanic than FF14's tanks LOL

I honestly think hardcore players would enjoy Lost Ark more than FF14. After a decade of dumbing down jobs FF14 now has less job complexity than Lost Ark, maybe minus Black Mage.

[Jin-]

Moment you go to the character creation it immediately hits your face with the typical Unreal Engine issues. Mini freezing when loading models and "slow" hd texture loading. And many of the armors look like ripped from Tera.

[MistyMew]

Moment you go to the character creation it immediately hits your face with the typical Unreal Engine issues. Mini freezing when loading models and "slow" hd texture loading. And many of the armors look like ripped from Tera.

Great thats all I needed to know, Tera has the "bestest" gear eva!!!
Im gonna try this game out

I like multiple games on the go..will add this one to my collection , in need of great looking gear again, can only wait so long for a pair of decent stilettos!!

[Starshower]

Can you explain how it's not a problematic game to play or without typical trappings of Korean like games? Besides "well other people play it!" which doesn't really tell me much. It is very grindy, yes? It has P2W, yes? It has lootboxes, yes? It's hardly the first game of its type.

> I think the combat can easily carry this game

I loved the combat in NW and that was not at all enough to carry it. Ultimately, MMORPGs do not live and die neither by combat nor by graphics.

I've seen the cash shop. It's as pay-to-win as World of Warcraft. (that game also has you grinding for gear and stats). Costumes from the cash shop, and other stuff there can be resold in the auction house after you don't want it anymore, so you can get it with ingame currency. You can also buy the optional monthly sub with ingame currency.


The reason it could be considered pay to win is that with premium currency you can buy the things you could buy with ingame currency, without the grind (which is the same thing that WoW has). Also, combat in new world to this simply doesn't compare.

[Wolwosh]

I can't play it here in the Netherlands. That tells me its prob full of gambling and other shady stuff