Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[Vortuna]

GMs are people too and tend to be biased, OP must've pissed off a GM's friend.

[Themarvin]

I am at a literal loss for words right now, because I received a warning DAYS ago now... for "grief" tactics. Excuse me? What? When the HECK did I participate in "grief" tactics, in fact I complain about griefers CONSTANTLY, but I am going to be hit with some warning for something I most certainly did NOT DO. I barely even chat in this game, and now my entire account will have this nasty mark on it, warning me for something I didn't know I did in the first place?!

I haven't logged into the game for like 4 days now, this makes absolutely no sense to me. Is this because I leave many dungeons I get into? Because I don't hardcast raise players? Because I try to focus on DPS uptime while juggling heals? Am I going to have to be paranoid about how I play the game now? Why doesn't my own game experience matter?

UNBELIEVABLE. I literally cannot believe this. I cannot think of a single instance of me doing this. I have yet to speak to a GM, or contact support, but I cannot have this nasty mark on my account for something I never did. Ridiculous. I log in to cap tomes and this is what I am greeted with.

I am sick and tired of many in this community whining about anything and everything, just because they don't get coddled or for some other apparent slight. SO sick of it, but I hadn't been hit by some idiotic warning before on my actual game account. If you want to enforce your TOS so strongly, maybe I will start reporting every single player everywhere who dares utter a curse word - can't beat them, then join them!

You don't need text or words to grief others, it can be constantly pulling ahead of a tank in a dungeon.... dying on purpose in pvp.... constantly pulling random mobs in areas that then kill unsuspecting players.. and more... that is a few other forms of griefing... or you can /laugh at someone over and over again... that is also griefing.

[SturmChurro]

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Without the backing of twitter it was pretty unlikely that I was going to get my warning appealed like the erp advertisers. It was a worth a try though.

[Misutoraru]

I would have been too embarrassed to bump this after 4 days. I would have let the thread die into obscurity and hope it was forgotten, but thats just me I guess.

It is just a “ Rashomon”

Without the statement from GM, only very few know what actually happen.

Bad practice but I understandable they want to protect the other party privacy.

I am curious what really happen but I guess we will never know

[Padudu]

ignorance does not absolve you of the responsibility of not treating people like garbage, nor is it an excuse for not following laws or rules. no court in no place on the planet would ever say "well, they didn't know breaking the law was against the law. so we'll just not do anything".

yeah obviously where did I state that ignorance isn't an excuse?? they should still show you logs or a more defined reason lmao cmon man like even league shows you logs when you've been overly toxic in chat. it's not a secret that SE hands out very vague reports that is up to the offender to figure out, but when you play the game like every day and do duties every single day and then get sanctioned for a report months ago or more recently, ngl I have a crap memory I wouldn't remember wtf I would do to get reported.

in addition, this isn't a ban. it never was a ban. it was a warning and if they are as innocent as they claim they have 2 other warnings before they would ever be even considered for a free 3 day vacation.

yes we all know the OP wasn't banned.

i'm ngl dude i'm not going to defend the OP's actions because they did act pretty abysmal, but you have some weird obsession with chastising the OP lmao like idk about you but I'm not going to like condemn the OP as a bad person because they acted hostile and aggro in a thread lmao, particularly in a thread for where like the last 40 pages they were literally jumped on so ofc anyone would act defensively towards that

i think Sturm gets that you think that they're a terrible person lmao so why do you continue going in here and scolding them? how many times do you want to tell "look inwards OP" lmao like do you want to see them atone for their actions in the thread? like for sure the OP has some personal problems to figure out but you don't have to point it out every single time you post in the thread bro

[SturmChurro]

like for sure the OP has some personal problems to figure out but you don't have to point it out every single time you post in the thread bro

I have personal problems? Yet, I still am not going around and reporting people in-game for stupid reasons that I will forget about in the next roulette. I think it takes a special kind of person to put someone's account at risk for a difference of gameplay or something. I can AT LEAST understand people reporting others for actual harassment, stalking, and that sort of stuff, but this is just laughably ridiculous.

I have done thousands and thousands of runs over the years, hundreds of runs since EW - one run blends in with another. Like I've said before, I don't even post the vast majority of my runs in the vent thread. I have no way of knowing what was the problem here.

[LittleImp]

i'm ngl dude i'm not going to defend the OP's actions because they did act pretty abysmal, but you have some weird obsession with chastising the OP lmao like idk about you but I'm not going to like condemn the OP as a bad person because they acted hostile and aggro in a thread lmao, particularly in a thread for where like the last 40 pages they were literally jumped on so ofc anyone would act defensively towards that

Their posts drip with 'insane twitter person' energy tbh. Just another righteous bully who probably inflicts ten times as much suffering as the supposed 'bad' people they prey upon.

[Padudu]

I have personal problems? Yet, I still am not going around and reporting people in-game for stupid reasons that I will forget about in the next roulette. I think it takes a special kind of person to put someone's account at risk for a difference of gameplay or something. I can AT LEAST understand people reporting others for actual harassment, stalking, and that sort of stuff, but this is just laughably ridiculous.

I have done thousands and thousands of runs over the years, hundreds of runs since EW - one run blends in with another. Like I've said before, I don't even post the vast majority of my runs in the vent thread. I have no way of knowing what was the problem here.

honestly I'm just going off by the posts in the thread and particularly some deleted ones, I realize after reading back it was that was a bit too much/accusatory so apologies. that's for u to ultimately decide and im just gonna leave it like that

and ya like I said, I don't really think you're a bad person lmao there's plenty of times when I've seen you be pleasant and cordial it's stupid that you don't get detailed reasoning

[SturmChurro]

honestly I'm just going off by the posts in the thread and particularly some deleted ones, I realize after reading back it was that was a bit too much/accusatory so apologies. that's for u to ultimately decide and im just gonna leave it like that

and ya like I said, I don't really think you're a bad person lmao there's plenty of times when I've seen you be pleasant and cordial it's stupid that you don't get detailed reasoning

When I made the thread, I had just been hit by this warning - my first ever. So I was confused, annoyed, etc. I was venting. I have already been banned twice on the forums for seriously dumb stuff - the forums actually show you what you did. So, generally, I am pretty apprehensive with the forum community. Plus, I have a laid back posting style, and I can be sarcastic and hyperbolic here. If this place had more, higher quality, emojis I would use them. I used to use gifs a lot more often, and stuff, but people didn't (don't) really like that.. I digress. It's the forums, I am posting to kill time, have fun, and talk about a game I like. The funny thing is I have mellowed out quite a bit. I just especially do not like the report happy mentality that has been fostered here.

This doesn't mean that I cannot be polite, pleasant and cordial, and, in fact, I have typically gotten the opposite reaction when I interact with people in-game. I apologize when I think I have made a mistake, heck I remember when I was doing one of the new EW leveling dungeons (when it first came out), it took me a few tries to get a mechanic, and I couldn't stop apologizing for bringing the team down. I didn't go and blame others for my mistake. When I play the game, I try to optimize my play to a moderate degree, so that I am not a hindrance to my group - this means doing damage, while also trying to heal. Apparently, not a very welcome playstyle.

[Xavier_Firbold]

Sorry about you appeal, Sturm. I still think it was something older than that party just due to how reports work, which makes it so much harder to even pin down what you need to look out for.



Didn't you make a thread because you got offended over a nightclub ad?

You mean actual proven breaks within the TOS?

What is your point?