Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[Senn]

I honestly don't have a specific number, it really depends strictly upon the context. I also ask myself how I would feel, i can remember my first DR run (OI) and am eternally grateful to the very classy people who raised me without complaint. I can only assume that they could see that I really was doing my best.

I think that's a good way to look at it. Generally you can tell who is actually trying and who isn't. You would think if someone was putting zero effort in and wanted a free ride, they'd like being dead on the ground so they don't have to do anything.
If people are complaining about no raises, it probably means they are frustrated at not getting to participate.

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this person is speaking true facts