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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    If they are going to give me a warning over this, then they need to start handing out warnings to players ruining my experience, by wasting everyone's time. Not using aoes, no cds, undergeared, dying constantly.. Or is that just ignored, because FFXIV has such a large population of these sort of players in their community? Why is a player contributing nothing to the rest of the party afforded protections?
    I'm 7 pages into this thread and I've seen a pretty consistent negative attitude in all of your posts. I cannot keep going through all the rest of this thread so I'm going to comment on this that you said.

    If you are joining a party with random people, then you are at the mercy of what those random players do in terms of how they play. If you don't want to play your role properly and heal/rez those players as needed, you ARE griefing. The fact that you make it a habit to leave dungeons the moment you get annoyed at someone not doing optimal dps, getting killed, not having the best gear, etc sounds like a prime reason to get a ban.

    You chose to enter that type of content. You know the risks going in(you clearly do as you've talked about the random players you team with a LOT in these last 7 pages). You still choose to take that risk and then punish all the other players in the party who likely had queues waiting to get into a dungeon in the first place.

    If you don't want to play properly in a party of random players you need to make your own private groups where you can do anything you like. Period.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    If you don't want to play properly in a party of random players you need to make your own private groups where you can do anything you like. Period.
    Me? Me not playing properly? Uh huh.. What about them? Why should the rest of the party be punished, because someone can't be bothered to learn mechanics, or their own rotation? Wearing proper gear, or using cds? Maybe they should make their own private "learning" groups, and then learn how to play properly.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 02-11-2022 at 09:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Me? Me not playing properly? Uh huh, uh huh... What about them? Why should the rest of the party be punished, because someone can't be bothered to learn mechanics, or their own rotation? Wearing proper gear, or using cds? Maybe they should make their own private "learning" groups, and then learn how to play properly.
    That may be your opinion, but I can guarantee you if you continue to only heal and raise others when you think they deserve it, you will likely experience this issue again. Surprised you haven't before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    That may be your opinion, but I can guarantee you if you continue to only heal and raise others when you think they deserve it, you will likely experience this issue again. Surprised you haven't before.
    That's because I heal players regardless. People here are the ones saying I don't heal, and withhold raises. Not me. I never said any of that. I said I don't hardcast raise, unless required - usually on major roles such as the other healer, tank, dps who can raise, and prefer to focus on dps uptime while juggling heals - which a large portion of them are oGCDs. I said I cast cure 2, if I run out of everything else. I am being attacked for something that isn't even true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    That's because I heal players regardless. People here are the ones saying I don't heal, and withhold raises. Not me. I never said any of that. I said I don't hardcast raise, unless required - usually on major roles such as the other healer, tank, dps who can raise, and prefer to focus on dps uptime while juggling heals - which a large portion of them are oGCDs. I said I cast cure 2, if I run out of everything else. I am being attacked for something that isn't even true.
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post

    Yes, I think how I play healer could also be a general issue with players. They see me casting glare constantly and whine about it. They should have never died in the first place. It is not my place to sit here and babysit bad players. If they die it's their fault. If my swiftcast is up, I will raise immediately, if it is not up I will wait until it is to raise. I will not hardcast raise unless it is absolutely necessary, such as raising a tank, or the other healer, perhaps an RDM or something. Aside from that, I will instead glare.
    Heal players regardless indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Heal players regardless indeed.


    How about we go on a learning experience. Here is my bar:



    Red are skills that do not require a cast. Yellow are skills that do not require a cast and are heals, shield, or just general support. Black are worthless skills. Utilizing much of my kit, means I can heal players regardless while still casting glare* with oGCDs. If I do not have oGCDs available, I have other avenues to do so without a cast, such as Afflatus Solus or Rapture.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 02-10-2022 at 11:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post


    How about we go on a learning experience. Here is my bar:



    Red are skills that do not require a cast. Yellow are skills that do not require a cast and are heals, shield, or just general support. Black are worthless skills. Utilizing much of my kit, means I can heal players regardless while still casting glare* with oGCDs. If I do not have oGCDs available, I have other avenues to do so without a cast, such as Afflatus Solus or Rapture.
    memes and screenshots. Neat. But you still said what you said previously.
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