Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[AbysmalDuck]

The keypoint is quite literally:


Per this rule’s elaboration & examples:
If you are reported and the GM sees that this was a one off event you are fine because life happens. If you are reported and the GM sees that you disconnect or suddenly stop pushing your buttons frequently at the start of “undesirable instances” or when your alliance wipes several times or when your feast team is clearly going to lose then there are grounds for deeming it less innocent.

Oh well, you obviously want to die on this hill, so go make an alt and exit out of a bunch of duties and let's see who's right since you are so adamant.

[MilkieTea]

Oh well, you obviously want to die on this hill, so go make an alt and exit out of a bunch of duties and let's see who's right since you are so adamant.

Hiya! Someone who frequently leaves duties here, be it because the playstyle of the participating players does not agree with mine, or because I've suddenly become unable or unwilling to play at the moment, or because I've become sick, or am too tired for a particular duty, or just don't want to see Livia's face for the 6th time in a week. I also leave multiple duties a day, sometimes! (Chronic illness is a bish)

Never have I ever been approached by a GM.

The rules language specifically says "Leaving the *game*" or "Disconnecting." That language is important, because they do use the term "instance" in other parts of the ToS.

Leaving an instance does not equate to leaving the game. It is encouraged to leave instances if playstyles disagree, you find yourself unable to play, etc etc. What is not encouraged, and is specifically disallowed, is leaving the game. This is because when leaving the game, you sidestep the penalties of leaving an instance. Your character remains in the instance for some time if you leave the game, and if it's in the beginning of an instance, your party members would have to wait 5 minutes in order to remove you from the party and search for someone who wishes to join. Leaving the game can be done in a myriad of ways, but the most common is using the task manager or disconnecting your internet.

[AbysmalDuck]

Hiya! Someone who frequently leaves duties here, be it because the playstyle of the participating players does not agree with mine, or because I've suddenly become unable or unwilling to play at the moment, or because I've become sick, or am too tired for a particular duty, or just don't want to see Livia's face for the 6th time in a week. I also leave multiple duties a day, sometimes! (Chronic illness is a bish)

Never have I ever been approached by a GM.

The rules language specifically says "Leaving the *game*" or "Disconnecting." That language is important, because they do use the term "instance" in other parts of the ToS.

Leaving an instance does not equate to leaving the game. It is encouraged to leave instances if playstyles disagree, you find yourself unable to play, etc etc. What is not encouraged, and is specifically disallowed, is leaving the game. This is because when leaving the game, you sidestep the penalties of leaving an instance. Your character remains in the instance for some time if you leave the game, and if it's in the beginning of an instance, your party members would have to wait 5 minutes in order to remove you from the party and search for someone who wishes to join. Leaving the game can be done in a myriad of ways, but the most common is using the task manager or disconnecting your internet.

You may do this, but you may have also gotten people that didn't report. That is a big part of it here and the main piece of the OP's discussion. You can leave all day long if no one reports you.

Again, you are taking an approach that doesn't work in the big picture. It is their discretion and no matter what you want the ToS to say, it doesn't matter. Game by definition means quite a few things.

[MilkieTea]

You may do this, but you may have also gotten people that didn't report. That is a big part of it here and the main piece of the OP's discussion. You can leave all day long if no one reports you.

Again, you are taking an approach that doesn't work in the big picture. It is their discretion and no matter what you want the ToS to say, it doesn't matter. Game by definition means quite a few things.

The two bolded statements cannot coexist :P

[AbysmalDuck]

The two bolded statements cannot coexist :P

If I ever see you in duty leave, I'll just report and instead of having a back and forth here, that will show us who is right.

[MilkieTea]

If I ever see you in duty leave, I'll just report and instead of having a back and forth here, that will show us who is right.

You do that! ^-^ I'll likely be too busy bent over a toilet to really care, though.