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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Of course, that means there's 1/10 where it actually was an unreasonable case. After all many players would be rather titled at an unfair account warning out of the blue and while they aren't doing themselves any favors by reacting badly, it's somewhat understandable.

    The ToS are a little vague and boil down to GM discretion and GM's are only human. I'm personally skeptical towards either side when it comes to stories like this. There's just no way to know and it's not worth assuming anything. But it is probably a good idea to be cautious in groups with anything that might risk a violation, even if it's not direct harassment.
    Yes an unreasonable case which a reasonable individual would still infer that it is a good idea to dispute the action carried out by the GM - The 1/10 cases are pretty much when it is someone asking for genuine advice relating to a sanction as opposed to trying to play a spiteful crusade, really.. Personally, given how gaming communities are on forums I'm always very disinclined to give benefit of the doubt to the player especially when there's first-hand evidence of their mannerisms beforehand. If it tilts them, then they should focus that energy in such a way that will allow them to get the information they want. In reality it is just people trying to self-victimise.

    There's sufficient information in there that if you're able to view something outside of the black and white spectrum and take into account both tone and context then you should have no real issue inferring what examples or situations would and wouldn't constitute as a violation of the Terms of Services. Many players have this irrational anxiety associated with the ToS that they believe they can be reported and banned for absolutely anything. When in reality it stems more from an inability to follow the terms more than anything else, even by a reasonable standard. EDIT: In fact, I would stand to argue that the community wouldn't be happy unless they cite every single example of what would constitute as a violation of a given clause - In which case we would have a thesaurus sized ToS. People barely read it as is, let alone if they would add more clarification to it.

    Had this similar thread/discussion before when the whole ToS were initially revised to cover RMT advertisements on PF. Reality of the case then is that they didn't change - People just didn't read them in the first place. Equally so, people felt they weren't asking for a permit to be rude, yet subsequently presenting a rude undertone.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 02-09-2022 at 10:29 AM.