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    Arazehl's Avatar
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    What you deem petty was violation enough and against ToS to get you warned. GM's don't draw your name out of fish bowl and decide to flag your account whether right or wrong without legitimate reason. They have their own policy they must go by too. They violate those and they're out of a job.

    I certainly don't think players line up to report others for funsies. Maybe a small few do, but not this vast population of players that violators like to think there is. It takes a bit of effort and time to fill in a report and attach any files relevant to the report, then send it in. Such a waste of a day, unless their is good cause.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I dislike the rule against leaving duties. I've never done it myself since I'm stubborn but there's plenty of good reasons I can think of as to why someone may have to leave a number of duties repeatedly within a short period of time through no fault of their own.
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    Abysmal Duck
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Honestly, reading the responses from you thus far and going back and looking at some responses from a few months ago that I remembered your name from, I can see why this happened and 100% believe you were in the wrong.
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    Billy Shears
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

    - William Shakespeare
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    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Leone Noir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yes, I think how I play healer could also be a general issue with players. They see me casting glare constantly and whine about it. They should have never died in the first place. It is not my place to sit here and babysit bad players. If they die it's their fault. If my swiftcast is up, I will raise immediately, if it is not up I will wait until it is to raise. I will not hardcast raise unless it is absolutely necessary, such as raising a tank, or the other healer, perhaps an RDM or something. Aside from that, I will instead glare.

    Exactly. They should raise themselves, I see many players just wait for a raise after a boss fight, and I do not raise them. They should respawn and teleport so they don't have a debuff.

    That is exactly what I think happened, somebody got mad and reported me, claiming I was griefing.
    If enough people are "whining" about how you play like you are claiming, maybe rethink how you prioritize your raises.
    It's important to consider things like... is this a new player? Would I be ruining the new player experience by leaving them dead on the floor? Or perhaps it's a player learning a new job. Or a returning player who forgot the mechanics. Be understanding that mistakes can happen even to long time players.

    Sometimes people get super unlucky and die twice in a row, so until your next swiftcast is ready, that's like what? 2 minutes dead on the floor? If you're doing simple roulette stuff, I don't see a need to withhold a raise. Doesn't seem like there'd be a lot of crucial moments in easy content like that. Savage/extreme is a different story.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Did you consider if it was the DC thing, you got a warning because someone thought you did it intentionally, reported you, and SE couldn't prove you didn't? They couldn't prove you did, so they couldn't make it a ban but also couldn't prove you didn't so warned you to be careful in the future.

    If it's the healing thing, is your party wiping because you aren't healing or raising people? If so, then you're not doing your job for whatever you think your valid reasons are and you're intentionally preventing the party from progressing by doing so. Though I would think something at that level would get a ban.

    Either way, it doesn't seem that you intend to take this as an opportunity to reflect on your actions but instead attack all the phantom "snowflakes" you think are doing you wrong.

    It shows a very serious lack of maturity.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If it's the healing thing, is your party wiping because you aren't healing or raising people? If so, then you're not doing your job for whatever you think your valid reasons are and you're intentionally preventing the party from progressing by doing so.
    Even if it isn't causing a wipe, it can be a miserable thing to see that the healer is not under pressure and has decided to attack-attack-attack while leaving you dead on the floor. Obviously there are variables like if the fight is nearly over or people need healing, or if it's getting close to the one-minute Swiftcast recharge timer, but it's still not much fun to be stuck there unable to contribute.

    (And am I correct in thinking that in any case, it would tend to overall be a DPS increase if the healer sacrifices three turns now to hardcast Raise, allowing the DPS to be alive and attacking three turns earlier than if they had to wait the whole minute to be revived?)

    Personally I'd rather revive them sooner, though for a DPS I'm less likely to put myself at risk to complete a cast. They got the "casting Raise" macro announcement; they know I tried. There's also no harm in raising them at the end of the fight – if they know better, they'll reject it and take themselves back to the start of the dungeon anyway; if they don't, they'll accept it and the weakness will probably have worn off by the time they need to do anything important.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Even if it isn't causing a wipe, it can be a miserable thing to see that the healer is not under pressure and has decided to attack-attack-attack while leaving you dead on the floor. Obviously there are variables like if the fight is nearly over or people need healing, or if it's getting close to the one-minute Swiftcast recharge timer, but it's still not much fun to be stuck there unable to contribute.

    (And am I correct in thinking that in any case, it would tend to overall be a DPS increase if the healer sacrifices three turns now to hardcast Raise, allowing the DPS to be alive and attacking three turns earlier than if they had to wait the whole minute to be revived?)

    Personally I'd rather revive them sooner, though for a DPS I'm less likely to put myself at risk to complete a cast. They got the "casting Raise" macro announcement; they know I tried. There's also no harm in raising them at the end of the fight – if they know better, they'll reject it and take themselves back to the start of the dungeon anyway; if they don't, they'll accept it and the weakness will probably have worn off by the time they need to do anything important.
    Agreed. I very rarely hard cast. Mechanics often don't allow it. If it's not the end of the fight and SC is down, I try to give a quick "SC down, get you when I can" in chat so they know I'm not just leaving them there for no reason. Or if someone at the end of the fight doesn't revive, I'll tell them to go ahead and revive to avoid the weakness debuff. If they don't want to do that and stay there, I just pop a raise on them and continue on. I think a lot of healers who get touchy about that are letting their ego get in the way. I honestly don't care if someone's taken avoidable damage. Things happen. I just heal them and raise them and dps around those duties. That's why I'm there.
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Did you consider if it was the DC thing, you got a warning because someone thought you did it intentionally, reported you, and SE couldn't prove you didn't? They couldn't prove you did, so they couldn't make it a ban but also couldn't prove you didn't so warned you to be careful in the future.

    If it's the healing thing, is your party wiping because you aren't healing or raising people? If so, then you're not doing your job for whatever you think your valid reasons are and you're intentionally preventing the party from progressing by doing so. Though I would think something at that level would get a ban.

    Either way, it doesn't seem that you intend to take this as an opportunity to reflect on your actions but instead attack all the phantom "snowflakes" you think are doing you wrong.

    It shows a very serious lack of maturity.
    First time always is going to be a warning unless it was something awful.
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    You are under no obligation to explain why you can't swiftcast/raise someone and as someone who has had to have a GM intervene or at the very least review my tickets they seemed to imply that they look at everything from chat to skills used and even things like you and your party's health, buffs and debuffs.

    I am firm in my belief that nobody has gotten in trouble for not hard-raising someone and anyone who claims they have is probably lying as a cover for the thing they -had- been given a warning/tempban for.

    In addition I suspect the "duty recorder" feature is something that always passively records a player's duty whether they have it set to do so or not and is a tool that has always existed for GMs that was only released to players later on; which also is likely how they are able to investigate so thoroughly. My supposition is that it is quite simple to covert what is recorded into something akin to plain text that simply indicates a player's position and what actions they are currently taking which honestly is trivial to store and compress in comparison to, say, a video.
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    Last edited by Denji; 02-08-2022 at 06:35 PM.

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