Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[Misutoraru]

From all the info I could gather (and the way OP express herself) in this thread. Following is purely my educated guess.

The most likely reason for the warning seem to be “revive”

OP have mention she only Swift cast and only hard cast “valuable” team members. So I believe some member got left on the floor, and I believe there are some verbal argument between said member and OP?

Since OP have not mention the reason/s for not reviving those/that member, I think GM look into the log and come to conclusions of the warning.

[aveyond-dreams]

I mean she isn't wrong about the healer's cast bar not being fully indicative of all that they are actually doing to keep a party alive, I use up my ogcds while continuing to dps/playing my astro card minigame. Under normal circumstances everyone's HP would remain high and it wouldn't be an issue, and if someone gets hit by an attack I let their base HP regen do its thing if there are no ogcds before covering the group before unavoidable raidwides that I know are coming.

Hardcasting heal spells is the last thing I do as a healer, Cure 1/Benefic 1 is absolutely not an ability I use normally, and I do not often find myself having to spam Cure 2/Benefic 2 unless the tank isn't using cooldowns or something unexpected happened. Lastly if a player doesn't appear to be understanding what is going on in a fight and raising them would drain the mana I need to keep other people alive, then I simply cannot spend the mana to get them back on their feet if it means we'd risk a wipe. Hardcasting raise is also an almost sure way to get me hit by an attack or to be interrupted by something else going on.

[Misutoraru]

Yeah, even if it's not your intention to powerplay, it can certainly come off that way. I don't know why some people are so strict when it comes to DF groups, it's pretty easy content. I was feeling a little inspired and decided to sketch out what you should avoid doing in DF since a picture is worth a thousand words. (This is my original character, please don't steal)

I hope this helps people avoid getting warnings in the future.

With the drawing now everything make sense

I read through 32 pages but one drawing get me straight to the point

I so want to steal the picture now

[Xaruko_Nexume]

With the drawing now everything make sense

I read through 32 pages but one drawing get me straight to the point

I so want to steal the picture now

Every thread that involves an event that happened in game now needs to be sumarized with this type of art work. Beautiful.

[Driavna]

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Hey Xaruko_Nexume, could you be so kind to edit a post you made quoting Churro? Seems he decided to remove that response and I think it will be cool you remove it too. Thanks!

Same goes for Padudu, will be really cool if you do it too. Thanks!

[LittleImp]

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If you'd like someone to chat with or play with from time to time on Primal, feel free to track me down and add me sometime.

Little Imp#3917 if you use discord.

[Padudu]

Also, I apologize for double posting but I couldn't fit it all in, I responded less than kindly earlier in the thread on the presumption that you were just being aggressive/stubborn for the sake of it and I'm realizing that may not be the case, so I'm sorry if anything I said came across as personal attacks.

edit: yeah I didn't realize they deleted, I'll edit accordingly

[Senn]

Meh... I'll lay off since it seems like you're having a genuinely hard time.
I just wish you would have done the same for me when I was having a rough go of it in the past.
If you did nothing wrong, good luck with your appeal.

[Michieltjuhh]

I'm not buying it. Just because the body is in your apartment and we found it without a search warrant and thus can't use it against you in court doesn't mean it's not there.

Having a hard time IRL doesn't justify oppressing strangers in-game. I'm no saint - far from it, and I dislike bad players, but as a healer main I keep them alive at all costs. It's what I signed up to do.

I agree with you though that not informing you if this is the reason you got a warning is a bad approach on SE's end. How are you not going to be a repeat offender if you genuinely don't know your offense?

[SturmChurro]

I'm not buying it. Just because the body is in your apartment and we found it without a search warrant and thus can't use it against you in court doesn't mean it's not there.

Having a hard time IRL doesn't justify oppressing strangers in-game. I'm no saint - far from it, and I dislike bad players, but as a healer main I keep them alive at all costs. It's what I signed up to do.

I agree with you though that not informing you if this is the reason you got a warning is a bad approach on SE's end. How are you not going to be a repeat offender if you genuinely don't know your offense?

I shouldn't have posted it in the first place, I didn't delete it fast enough. It wasn't the place, and it killed my thread.

"Oppress" is a bit of a strong term, I think. I don't dislike bad players, I dislike players who blame, attack, and demand of others when something goes wrong. They die and then demand me to drop everything I am doing, when there are 7 other players in the party. I have literally been harassed over it. Yes, I will prioritize a 'valuable' role or job if I have to hardcast raise, because they are necessary for a smoother run. The truth of the matter is an RDM or even SMN is a better use of a hardcast raise. A tank or healer is infinitely more 'valuable' for obvious reasons. It sucks that they can't play, but when they die it really is, typically, their fault. I try to heal them, I put a shield on them. Often times, I see people not even entering my Asylum, and are too far away to receive either mine or the other healers heals. Keep in mind, again, for this sort of content - I am not the only healer. If things are going well, I would actually be overhealing. For a person to die this means, they died despite there being two healers in the party.

I have adjusted to runs, I have had to solo heal many times, and saved runs. It's not as if I am incapable of doing it. I just don't appreciate being attacked, regardless of their frustration. I have never resorted to reporting the player, even when they have harassed me. I see it being done out of spite. I understand the rationalization of players in this game reporting others to 'discourage' future behaviour, and, granted, it has seemed to work on some level, however it has bred passive-aggressive hostility, through the fear of bans. If ToS enforcement wasn't so seemingly heavy-handed I could understand it, but this is a game. It doesn't actually matter that much, and I just do not think it is worth putting another person's account at risk for something so petty. Have the disagreement, and then forget about it - or don't - but resorting to going after players for the sole purpose of getting them banned is too far.

Anyway, yeah, I don't even know if it was due to how I approach healing and raises, or something else. I have no idea what the heck I am being hit for. We are talking thousands upon thousands of runs, since apparently it doesn't necessarily mean anything recent. I will never know either, whether my appeal passes or not. I will have no idea what the actual issue was.