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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    Leaving is selfish, when you don't explain the purpose of leaving and just up and leave. Most people, would be kind enough to wait. I would. I've only cared when people say "one sec" and then are gone for 5 minutes. Then I proceed to vote kick, because they weren't honest or didn't care enough to give us a realistic estimate of how long we should wait. If someone said, "one sec, I need to run to the restroom" or some variation of that to let us know something is up, then I'm cool with it.

    Also, if you know you can't perform, then you perhaps shouldn't be joining. Obviously, you are throwing that out there to be vague and cast a large net of people that may have legitimate reasons for not being able to perform such as disabilities to make your argument stronger. I've had people join and say they had a disability. They made it through half the dungeon or it was so long ago that I don't remember if anything was said or whatever, but they just left. I had no reason to be upset. They were forth coming and for whatever reason felt they couldn't continue. That isn't reportable, but leaving because single pulls or whatever you are annoyed about from your other party members, is selfish.
    "Hiya! Someone who frequently leaves duties here, be it because the playstyle of the participating players does not agree with mine, or because I've suddenly become unable or unwilling to play at the moment, or because I've become sick, or am too tired for a particular duty, or just don't want to see Livia's face for the 6th time in a week. I also leave multiple duties a day, sometimes! (Chronic illness is a bish)"

    I suffer from rapid onset migraines. It becomes a sudden pain to look at my screen. I have a mouse macro that I click to leave duties when that happens, so it'll click for me. I'll then spend the next three hours bent over a toilet in my dark bathroom. Shouldn't have to say anything.

    I think it's really selfish to think you are owed an explanation whenever someone can't perform at their best for whatever reason. It really shows a self-centered, "mememe" view of the world.
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    "Hiya! Someone who frequently leaves duties here, be it because the playstyle of the participating players does not agree with mine, or because I've suddenly become unable or unwilling to play at the moment, or because I've become sick, or am too tired for a particular duty, or just don't want to see Livia's face for the 6th time in a week. I also leave multiple duties a day, sometimes! (Chronic illness is a bish)"

    I suffer from rapid onset migraines. It becomes a sudden pain to look at my screen. I have a mouse macro that I click to leave duties when that happens, so it'll click for me. I'll then spend the next three hours bent over a toilet in my dark bathroom. Shouldn't have to say anything.

    I think it's really selfish to think you are owed an explanation whenever someone can't perform at their best for whatever reason. It really shows a self-centered, "mememe" view of the world.
    The bait is strong with this one. A simple "not feeling well, gtg" would suffice. You can easily add that to your macro.

    Even though you are trying to continue to pick a fight that was ultimately about "stop trying to make the ToS fit your narrative", I, on a human-to-human level, hope that you find some relief with your personal ailments as most all of us have some form of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    The bait is strong with this one. A simple "not feeling well, gtg" would suffice. You can easily add that to your macro.

    Even though you are trying to continue to pick a fight that was ultimately about "stop trying to make the ToS fit your narrative", I, on a human-to-human level, hope that you find some relief with your personal ailments as most all of us have some form of those.
    No one owes you an explanation, is the point I am trying to make. It is selfish to expect everyone to bend to your will and cater to your extremely neurotic need to feel in control of all situations. If someone needs (or wants) to leave, they will leave.

    Ultimately, you can, and probably will, report everyone who leaves suddenly. That is your prerogative. But expect nothing to be done because, as you have just said, "stop trying to make the ToS fit your narrative." Just because someone says nothing before they leave does not mean they've broken ToS. The ToS is written in such a way as to specifically indicate misuse of external functions to facilitate "Leaving the GAME" or "disconnecting."

    But I hardly expect you to recognize that, when you're so blatantly trying to twist everything to be about trolling and stalking and deliberation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    "stop trying to make the ToS fit your narrative",.
    He says as he reports people for leaving a duty, which is unequivocally not against the ToS. I really hope you are following through though, and earn a vacation yourself for abuse of the report system. I don't think you are reporting these people, but if being an internet tough guy is that important to you, dont let me stop you.
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