Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[Vahlnir]

Players need to take what the roulette wheel dealt them. Stop causing others all the false starts and down time. To add: No 30 min penalty isn't enough for disruption of gameplay.

My point still stands. No one should be held hostage in an instance. If they want to stay, they will stay. If they want to leave then they are free to leave. All is as it should be.

[Denji]

My point still stands. No one should be held hostage in an instance. If they want to stay, they will stay. If they want to leave then they are free to leave. All is as it should be.

And you can and you're not held hostage. You just agree to a 30 minute timeout which, to me, is more than reasonable because if it weren't there people would just ditch any dungeon they don't want to do.

If you don't want to be placed in an instance you don't want to do then don't do roulette. The bonuses they provide are exactly that - a bonus. An incentive to run content you may not ordinarily want to run.

[Vahlnir]

And you can and you're not held hostage. You just agree to a 30 minute timeout which, to me, is more than reasonable because if it weren't there people would just ditch any dungeon they don't want to do.

If you don't want to be placed in an instance you don't want to do then don't do roulette. The bonuses they provide are exactly that - a bonus. An incentive to run content you may not ordinarily want to run.

I agree that people should accept what they are given. I'm a pretty regular roulette user, by the way, who almost never leaves. But I also defend everyone's right to leave if they don't want to be there, even if it's a bit of a jerk move in some cases. There doesn't need to be more restrictions or punishments beyond the 30 minute debuff is all I've been trying to say.

[Vidu]

I agree that people should accept what they are given. I'm a pretty regular roulette user, by the way, who almost never leaves. But I also defend everyone's right to leave if they don't want to be there, even if it's a bit of a jerk move in some cases. There doesn't need to be more restrictions or punishments beyond the 30 minute debuff is all I've been trying to say.

While I agree with this general statement, looking at the timeline of this "case" they didnt just leave the dungeon - and didnt communicate with their party about their internet problems. So for the party it might have looked like they got a dungeon they didnt want to do, so they tried to get themself kicked instead of taking the penalty. When that didnt work, they left. At least that would have been an assumption I could have reached after someone DC'd, then lost their tankstance in mysterious ways and wasnt able to tank (anymore) and ultimately left the dungeon. I wouldnt report anyone over it, but my first guess would be "Ah, someone didnt want to do this and didnt want the penalty, so they tried everything to get kicked" - specially if they didnt comment on having a problem with their internet connection. And ofc, no one needs to disclose things like that (though it doesnt seem like terrible private information...), but everyone needs to be aware that if they dont say anything at all, people will be left to guess and come up with their own explantions.

[Arazehl]

My point still stands. No one should be held hostage in an instance. If they want to stay, they will stay. If they want to leave then they are free to leave. All is as it should be.

I have a better idea. Don't queue up to begin with if you have a chance of not staying or you plan on ditching the instance. Problem solved.