Maps being nerfed?

[Bacent]

I notice how you conveniently didn't address the part about weights and modifiers.

Retainer ventures are "random", but you're going to get a lot more Bom Bokos than Venture Crates or rare decorations or Glamour Items.

Love how you're trying to discredit what I'm saying just because I didn't address something. But fine. The rare items are always harder to get. In every single game. It's part of the grind in ANY game that makes you play just a bit longer if you have bad RNG/luck. There will always been junk in the item pools you'll always get an item 100% of the time to make it take longer. It's basically the same as getting nothing when you get something that common.

And you're all ignoring the fact that it's an MMO RPG. They're not meant to be sped through if you want to get all the stuff you actually want to get.

[Conundrum]

Love how you're trying to discredit what I'm saying just because I didn't address something. But fine. The rare items are always harder to get. In every single game. It's part of the grind in ANY game that makes you play just a bit longer if you have bad RNG/luck. There will always been junk in the item pools you'll always get an item 100% of the time to make it take longer. It's basically the same as getting nothing when you get something that common.

And you're all ignoring the fact that it's an MMO RPG. They're not meant to be sped through if you want to get all the stuff you actually want to get.

So RNG isn't just RNG, and can be tweaked at the whim of the devs. Thanks for agreeing with me.

[Saraide]

Because it is. In single player games there's usually ways to cheese the RNG or boost your odds as you progress. This is an MMO game, meant to take a while to do many of the things in game. No way to boost your odds for that kind of stuff.

There's also RNG on top of RNG.

Say it's 75% chance to get through door one. Then a separate 65% chances to get through door 2. That's stacking the RNG on top of its self so the odds quickly get lower and lower as you go through. Odds stacking on top of one another quickly gives you VERY 'lottery winning' odds no matter how you look at it.

Is it meant to take a while? If it was, why can you just get lucky and get a ton of stuff first try?

[MilkieTea]

Is it meant to take a while? If it was, why can you just get lucky and get a ton of stuff first try?

You said it yourself.

[Bacent]

Is it meant to take a while? If it was, why can you just get lucky and get a ton of stuff first try?

There's always people just getting plain lucky in everything that happens. Because luck isn't something you can factor in. It just happens.

[Saraide]

There's always people just getting plain lucky in everything that happens. Because luck isn't something you can factor in. It just happens.

You said it yourself.

So it's not intended to take long at all, it's just left up to luck instead. Glad we managed to clear that up.

[Saraide]

Clearly you need to team up with luckier people. /s

[Denji]

I've been repeatedly doing quite literally hundreds of level 80 maps for shell leather with my FC. I'm not even joking, we've done a hundred-odd of them now.

We made it to the end ONCE and not a single one of the maps has dropped a single thing of shell leather. It's insane. I am curious if they've done something.

[Conundrum]

I've been repeatedly doing quite literally hundreds of level 80 maps for shell leather with my FC. I'm not even joking, we've done a hundred-odd of them now.

We made it to the end ONCE and not a single one of the maps has dropped a single thing of shell leather. It's insane. I am curious if they've done something.

Well there was some discussion a week or two ago about retainer ventures being noticeably nerfed. They now drop a lot fewer venture crates which of course drop dyes, the obvious logic there is more mog station dye sales.

I don't know of anything the bean counters have to gain by nerfing maps, they don't compete with mog station...unless you stretch it to say the items crafted with map drops compete with mog station outfits.

[AbysmalDuck]

I've been repeatedly doing quite literally hundreds of level 80 maps for shell leather with my FC. I'm not even joking, we've done a hundred-odd of them now.

We made it to the end ONCE and not a single one of the maps has dropped a single thing of shell leather. It's insane. I am curious if they've done something.

That's because shell leather doesn't drop from the group 80 maps. Only from the solo maps.