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    Player
    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinPunnyD View Post
    Alternatively, make it so that if the mount drops, everyone in the party gets it.
    That just means the drop rate will become microscopic to balance things out.
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    Leon Daraguin
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    It is annoying how long it takes to get the EX mounts. Personally I didn't get any ShB mounts cause they were too grindy for me at the time. But I probably would have if I wasn't busy with Savage, Ultimates, and Bozja.

    Regardless of my subjective feelings on it, I understand why they make it so grindy. It's to keep the content relevant for as long as possible, to allow late-comers the ability to easily find PF groups. Basically they break it into 4 waves: The people who grind super hard for the actual mount drops or 99 totems; people who grind slightly more casually and get their 99 totems in a few months; people who wait for the increased drop rate; and new players or ultra-patient people who just wait for the next expac to farm it unsynced. That way, if a new player (or a veteran who couldn't play for a while) starts doing an EX fight at any point within a year of release, they won't have to wait very long to find a decent group. And it gets gradually easier as it gets less populated, so it's never impossible to farm.

    If the devs are primarily worried about the health of PF, and allowing people to find farm groups for months and months, they're going to be very hesitant to buff the drops rates or totem cost. It's the same thing with Roulettes. They give the veterans a reason to grind old content for 100s of hours (tomestones for the gear treadmill/exp for alt classes + amaro mount) so that there's always a ready supply of party members. As long as people are willing to farm 99 totems (begrudgingly or not), the system is working perfectly - i.e. it's keeping players in the game, grouping up for relevant content, for as long as possible.

    At least they aren't pure RNG drops. And at least they get easier to obtain over time. So I dunno. It would be nice if they lowered the totem cost a little bit, to like 80, but I don't think the devs need or want to make it much faster. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Valerial Snowfall
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I have seen 10+ mount drops in Seat of Sacrifice and didn't get a single one. It's extremely soul-crushing when the people that got the mount leave and you didn't get it after hours of farming it.
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    Dropping the mount total to 50 seems like a reasonable move. And I'm not just saying that because doing Byakko EX 99+ times eroded my will to play this game for a year. The Rathalos mount is also 50 tokens to exchange for the mount, so that already has precedent.

    Giving Totems to the ARR Primals might also be nice for newer players, maybe, if only so you can trade for Nightmare if it drops. In that particular case, I'd say 20 Totems from Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan each would be a reasonable trade-in.
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    Last edited by Berteaux_Braumegain; 02-07-2022 at 02:13 PM.

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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    trying to grind on content drop is just a waste of time imo for EX mounts. as much as you "need" it you don't really "need" it. but that's just me. I am not really feelin the style choice this expansion either for the EX mounts so my motivation is low even though I like to collect mounts. I know it'll just get easier over time so I'm taking it chill for now.
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    H'molosii Dinhe
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    100% support this idea. 99 is waaaay to high.
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    Justuas Galka
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    Why would they ease the grind when it keeps you playing the game? Gotta get that sub money somehow.
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    Thea Sitori
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    I liked the Hades EX model of dropping two tokens per-clear. I did the fight on-content for the 50 clears. I enjoyed it and the time to do the fight was warranted. The exaflare safe spot cheese was hilarious, was beautiful as a healer since i can just stand there, handle bleeds and do damage.

    They won't do this again unless the fight has that difficulty and time it takes to clear, but I hope they make more of these kind of extremes so they can.
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    I liked the Hades EX model of dropping two tokens per-clear. I did the fight on-content for the 50 clears. I enjoyed it and the time to do the fight was warranted. The exaflare safe spot cheese was hilarious, was beautiful as a healer since i can just stand there, handle bleeds and do damage.

    They won't do this again unless the fight has that difficulty and time it takes to clear, but I hope they make more of these kind of extremes so they can.
    Diamond Weapon also drops two tokens.
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    Onywen Fraelia
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    When I first found out that you needed 99 tokens I thought it was a joke.
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