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    Islands and ocean exploration for next expansion!

    It would fit perfectly with a New World themed expansion. If we can get our very own ship to build up and explore various islands in the wide ocean, and see other players sailing too, that would be so awesome. We can add collectibles and little sidequests on each island. I think FF14 should incorporate endgame-related content in the MSQ going forward to make it not so linear. Have it so that the player needs to build a small ship to sail to the New World, and let them explore a bit in the open seas before they get to the New World! Then they can make ocean exploration an endgame experience with stuff like collectibles, open world PvP (on special islands), ship combat (like AC:Black Flag style).
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    no thank you.

    for a properly done seafaring game, it needs to be done that way from the ground up. you cannot easily shoehorn that in to an existing game. not to mention, if the player is in a small ship, why would they be engaging in ship to ship combat? Or should they also be able to hire a pirate crew? maybe, get a spyglass even to examine distant objects and island?

    mmos like FFxiv tend to be rather linear, since most people playing like having a set end goal. they also are not all fond of crafting, so this building a ship part may not fly as well as you think. either way, I dont see it as something viable since AC already does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    no thank you.

    for a properly done seafaring game, it needs to be done that way from the ground up. you cannot easily shoehorn that in to an existing game. not to mention, if the player is in a small ship, why would they be engaging in ship to ship combat? Or should they also be able to hire a pirate crew? maybe, get a spyglass even to examine distant objects and island?

    mmos like FFxiv tend to be rather linear, since most people playing like having a set end goal. they also are not all fond of crafting, so this building a ship part may not fly as well as you think. either way, I dont see it as something viable since AC already does it.
    Yes we should be able to hire a pirate crew and use spyglasses!

    And the MSQ can just give you a basic ship for free, and you can develop your pirate ship in your Island Sanctuary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    no thank you.

    for a properly done seafaring game, it needs to be done that way from the ground up. you cannot easily shoehorn that in to an existing game. not to mention, if the player is in a small ship, why would they be engaging in ship to ship combat? Or should they also be able to hire a pirate crew? maybe, get a spyglass even to examine distant objects and island?

    mmos like FFxiv tend to be rather linear, since most people playing like having a set end goal. they also are not all fond of crafting, so this building a ship part may not fly as well as you think. either way, I dont see it as something viable since AC already does it.
    Yeah, WoW has tried the seafaring thing in a couple of expansions and it was always a miserable experience. Vash’jir was terrible and pretty much all of BFA was just tedious and awful too. I wasn’t big on the Ruby Sea or the Tempest either in this game. Guess I’m not an island and ocean theme kinda person.

    Come to think of it, I hated island and sea zones in Everquest as well. Ocean of Tears, Timorous Deep, Gunthak. Hated them all.
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    Like your idea, but I don't think could do a naval battle type content with FFXIV. Exploring unknown Isles and having your own ship sounds awesome that's probably what some people were picturing in there head when first introduced airships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiori View Post
    Like your idea, but I don't think could do a naval battle type content with FFXIV. Exploring unknown Isles and having your own ship sounds awesome that's probably what some people were picturing in there head when first introduced airships.
    They can make a naval battle type content that doesn't rely on aligning your shots and such. I was more thinking along the lines of the G-Warrior type of combat that you see in the ShB trial questline.

    Also I wasn't thinking of PvP naval battle, I was thinking of having open world enemy ghost ships or something that everyone can join and engage in, much like FATEs, except it's over water!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    They can make a naval battle type content that doesn't rely on aligning your shots and such. I was more thinking along the lines of the G-Warrior type of combat that you see in the ShB trial questline.

    Also I wasn't thinking of PvP naval battle, I was thinking of having open world enemy ghost ships or something that everyone can join and engage in, much like FATEs, except it's over water!
    Nicely thought out, yeah that would be great its something I could get behind.
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    They tried to give us this content once and it became the OG Diadem. You had to go there on your own FC airship.

    And..... it sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    They tried to give us this content once and it became the OG Diadem. You had to go there on your own FC airship.

    And..... it sucked.
    lmao what

    OG diadem was about hunting dinosaurs and that stupid emergency mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    lmao what

    OG diadem was about hunting dinosaurs and that stupid emergency mission.
    Yeah, it started out as "explore islands!" and then got scope trimmed down to what we ended up with in OG diadem.

    FC airships "explore" the various islands now instead. And farm stuff there. But they are definitely exploring islands. You just never get to see what they look like. Sure would be nice if we could give the mammet a camera.

    My point is OP's idea is really cool! And SE tried to do it! And because building something like that is a lot harder than it sounds, the result sucked.
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    Last edited by Catwho; 02-16-2022 at 06:02 AM.

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