Final Fantasy XIV Hot Takes

[SenorPatty]

I don't think it's reasonable for either the Sundered or Unsundered to be expected to just roll over and die for the sake of the other. It's unfortunate that they were put in such a horrific position to begin with though we can most certainly place the blame for that at Venat's feet.

You'll probably have to look up to do so, though. Everybody else has to walk, apparently, but somehow she still has wings. Not one to lead by example, I suppose! Hahaha!

See, I'm conflicted a little about this.

Clearly some time passed after the events on Elpis. Unfortunately, the game doesn't show us enough. What was that golden rule in live-action/animation? "Show, don't tell?" Yeah, they didn't do enough so we don't have that whole buildup to what Venat does. The final days started but I would hate to think Venat immediately went for blood (especially given the way she describes how much she loves all living things) but at the same time, the custcene makes it look like right there and then, she made up her mind like a homicidal psychopath would when they flip their mental switch.

It's all these questions I want to ask the live letter (or at least I hope people ask) but I have a feeling they'll go unanswered.

[Vahlnir]

I don't care, I disagree. I'm 100% sure he'd be a different person if he grew up in a loving environment.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I don't care, I disagree. I'm 100% sure he'd be a different person if he grew up in a loving environment.

I’ve seen people grow up in a great living environment and still turn out shitty. While it is true in some cases that some people are shaped by their experiences that isn’t for everyone. There are people who grow up in absolute shitty conditions but still end up alright. In game evidence of this for example being some of the scions. People have the choice to change, they just choose not to. This was very evident with Yotsuyu and Zenos.

[Shibi]

Hot take: People who spoil deserve to be sundered and spend eternity washing a primal's bumcrack.

[dapperfaffer]

Hot Take: The Hot Take thread is no longer about hot takes
jfc

[Vahlnir]

Hot Take: The Hot Take thread is no longer about hot takes
jfc

Everything being said right now is probably a hot take in someone's eyes. Somewhere. Even my post right here.

[dapperfaffer]

Everything being said right now is probably a hot take in someone's eyes. Somewhere. Even my post right here.

oh, nyo!
does that mean we're Twatter now?

[kpxmanifesto]

I don't care, I disagree. I'm 100% sure he'd be a different person if he grew up in a loving environment.

Ya know, I thought you were really on to something there right until you deleted your posts.

[Minarisweet]

I love how this thread is a battlefield

[Remish]

See, I'm conflicted a little about this.

Clearly some time passed after the events on Elpis. Unfortunately, the game doesn't show us enough. What was that golden rule in live-action/animation? "Show, don't tell?" Yeah, they didn't do enough so we don't have that whole buildup to what Venat does. The final days started but I would hate to think Venat immediately went for blood (especially given the way she describes how much she loves all living things) but at the same time, the custcene makes it look like right there and then, she made up her mind like a homicidal psychopath would when they flip their mental switch.

It's all these questions I want to ask the live letter (or at least I hope people ask) but I have a feeling they'll go unanswered.

Everyone was getting a bit nutty and crazy during the events of the final days. You had Venat who basically took upon the role of a bible prophet. Meanwhile the population was so stuck to their own ideologies to think she was anything more than a tin foiled hat conspiracy theorist. When at the same time they were sacrificing lives to supply their own conspiracy theorist god, Zodiark. Though when the whole planet is plunged into Armageddon, I couldn't reasonably expect anyone to stay mentally sane. It boiled down to that Venat knew the truth but nobody would believe her and so she was forced to commit acts of necessary evils and become the bad guy for the greater good. It's pretty hypocritical that she got to keep her "wings" sure. But she didn't keep her wings because she thought she was superior, she kept them because she was the only one with any knowledge of the future and of Metetion. The fact she gives her life up so quickly the moment we meet her, goes to show how long she has waited for a successor to relieve her of the burden.

At the end of the day, every single person involved handled the entire situation badly but both sides are going to point fingers that the other was eviler than their own beliefs. The difference was that Venat had the foreknowledge of her actions to sunder the planet which had seemingly believable good potential since the us from the future enlightened her to that outcome. She even says in the story that she would never oppose the convocations decisions. Her mind was made up entirely because she believed our story. Which she didn't have much reason to doubt since our soul was the same as her successor's. Whom she already trusted. We're missing a lot of information about what happened exactly leading up to it. Like did she ever even speak to the new Azem (us) about it or left them in the dark while they made their own blind choices. It's hard to say and I'd very much like to know myself. If Venat became some deranged lunatic, it's only because we made her one acting as if we're an Angel coming down from heaven to heavily influence her mind. Azems in general are just extremely chaotic good in nature.