Final Fantasy XIV Hot Takes

[Soge01]

Y'shtola bongo cat should be a thing.

[Mimilu]

On MCH, I miss the Ammo mechanic. (╯✧∇✧)╯
Having your character load 'em up and cock the gun was really satisfying. Scattershot has that same feeling now but still.
I would love if they took the bow/gun-mage gameplay and concept of HW's BRD and MCH and made a new caster job out of it: weak insta-cast spells that become stronger but gain a cast time whenever the user manually turns on a stance-ability and they have one or two abilities that give them stack to make those spells strong and insta-cast. (*•̀ᴗ•́*)و ̑̑

[Jkap_Goat]

But... Rogue/Thief has always upgraded into Ninja? you literally cannot get more classic and iconic than that, FFI Thief upgrades into Ninja, FFT Ninja requires a high level in Thief, FFTA Ninja requires 2 Thief abilities, and these are just the examples that come to mind, this is the iconic path for the Job and XIV did it right.

FFXI THF and NIN was their own thing, only thing they had was the same was using daggers

[Vyrerus]

FFXI THF and NIN was their own thing, only thing they had was the same was using daggers

NIN in 11 can use daggers, but its main weapon was, "katanas" in the wakizashi/kunai type. Had their own weaponskills and were slashing damage compared to daggers largely being piercing damage.

[Jkap_Goat]

NIN in 11 can use daggers, but its main weapon was, "katanas" in the wakizashi/kunai type. Had their own weaponskills and were slashing damage compared to daggers largely being piercing damage.

ooohh your right, I assumed they main was daggers, I haven't played NIN yet, only a Dancer main and THF main lol

[VeyaAkemi]

FFXI THF and NIN was their own thing, only thing they had was the same was using daggers

And that's FFXI, but FFXIV isn't "FFXI-2" as much as some people like to pretend it is, it is a Final Fantasy game, so claiming it "did the iconic job wrong" is ridiculous when it has a depiction more accurate to the older games than FFXI did, if anything, it's FFXI that failed the legacy, and FFXIV course-corrected to what it has always been.

[Jkap_Goat]

And that's FFXI, but FFXIV isn't "FFXI-2" as much as some people like to pretend it is, it is a Final Fantasy game, so claiming it "did the iconic job wrong" is ridiculous when it has a depiction more accurate to the older games than FFXI did, if anything, it's FFXI that failed the legacy, and FFXIV course-corrected to what it has always been.

FFXIV failed THF like FFXIV Failed Ranger and Bard, and made bard which has always been a support to a Ranger that plays music.

FFXI was true to what THF is and what NIN,was also true to what bard is, a Heavy Support job, and red mage too, A jack of all trades, master of none

instead FFXIV is just a Orgy with all the FF games and a homogenized job system with a very very boring battle system

funny you say FFXIV isn't FFXI-2 but all the original races are watered down versions of FFXI races lol

[Jkap_Goat]

Personally, I think it would've been pretty cool if, to keep with the Final Fantasy tradition, having Thief be a job back during ARR that Rogue turns into. Thief has been avoided due to affiliations with crime and morality unbefitting of a Warrior of Light, and I can respect that mindset to a point, but I do think they could easily have spun the Thief job to be about espionage--like spies for Uldah who infiltrate and sabotage the corrupted wealthy who use their resources to avoid the law. Meanwhile, Ninja could've been added as a physical ranged job using a shuriken like with Yuffie rather than daggers. There's overlap in those identities, but Thief could've been spun about being more utility with an information gathering focus in contrast to the status as guards and assassins that Doma's shinobi embody.

that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard... in FFXI Ninja and Thief are very different jobs, only thing they have in common is they can both use daggers (THF: Rank A in Daggers, NIN: Rank C in daggers) but FFXI jobs can use a lot of weapons and not just tied to one weapon like xiv jobs. jobs using daggers doesn't overlap identity.


in FFXI, you are the WoL, fighting to save the world of Vana'diel from engulfed by darkness, you can do all of this as a THF.

so that mindset makes no sense.

[ty_taurus]

that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard... in FFXI Ninja and Thief are very different jobs, only thing they have in common is they can both use daggers (THF: Rank A in Daggers, NIN: Rank C in daggers) but FFXI jobs can use a lot of weapons and not just tied to one weapon like xiv jobs. jobs using daggers doesn't overlap identity.


in FFXI, you are the WoL, fighting to save the world of Vana'diel from engulfed by darkness, you can do all of this as a THF.

so that mindset makes no sense.

Did someone spit in your cereal this morning? Why the nastiness?

[Jkap_Goat]

I love THF, whoever said THF was associated with "evil" never played a final fantasy game before