The Ascians and the Ancient plotline is meh in alot of ways, and all the bullheadness of fanboys/fangirls it spawned has made story discourse a slog.



Slight spoilers i guess.
ShB was the beach episode of FFXIV and we could've done w/o going to another shard, yes we learned some about hydaelyn and zodiark but they could've simply done that in the source. Instead we used almost an entire expansion to build up ShB to barely revisit it once in a quest.
SE made the smart move to call it shadowbringers, branding us warriors of darkness. I like this because it shows that light isnt always the answer and darkness isnt always bad up till the very end of ShB! and then ... Darkness boss and you use the light to defeat it in QTE and they doubled down when the 5.3 boss was actually light based. Why did they not swap these 2 bosses ... the 5.3 one would've been as epic and iconic as the 5.0 one ... yes the story would've needed adjustments but it would've been entirely possible. The name Shadowbringers would've been a lot more impactful if we had defeated the 5.3 boss at the end of 5.0.
And while we are at it, the amount of recycling was to high in ShB, If i ever have to see another Shiva I'm going insane, there's 5 versions now.
Also Graha Tia is the most annoying char to me, i get some ppl get the "i need to defend this character" feeling, but dear god did i hope SE would off him.
Gameplay having a bit of jank to it made things feel more active and engaging i.e. dps enmity management or cleric stance.
Doma was created with anti-Chinese sentiments.
When it comes to glamours, the team cares more about birthing memes than making sure there's an aesthetic for everyone.
Future expansions need to start simmering down to either just one new job or none at all, focusing on the rest of the gameplay instead.
Stormblood and Endwalker both should've been two expansions instead of one.
The writers try too hard to outdo themselves and it became painfully obvious in Endwalker.
hot take if do not understanding the joke of hot takes in the context of MMO criticism then boast about how you know a dictionary definition you should not be allowed to use the forum
boast??
Its simply a link the the definition
what are you on ,to suggest I shouldn't be allowed to use these forums , you spiteful little gatekeeper.
Last edited by Izar_Chillen; 02-07-2022 at 11:41 PM.


If this the dumbest thing you have ever read then you must not frequent these forums very often or your standards of dumb are very very low. That or you just wish to insult me.
Regardless, this statement is still true and if you'd like, I could absolutely derail this whole thread with articles and citations from credible sources to prove this statement.
Last edited by Remish; 02-07-2022 at 10:36 PM.



I wish to apologize to you, I looked up toxic positivity and it is real. I just never knew it was. I will say people take it too far though. I happen to enjoy FFXIV and my reaction is one of defence when people constantly critize this game. Sure it has faults sure things need to be worked on. But you have to admit some people just critize to jump on the band wagon and this thread is a good example. My hot take is: I'm going to read another thread with a more upbeat take.If this the dumbest thing you have ever read then you must not frequent these forums very often or your standards of dumb are very very low. That or you just wish to insult me.
Regardless, this statement is still true and if you'd like, I could absolutely derail this whole thread with articles and citations from credible sources to prove this statement.
Enjoy Life you only get one.


I appreciate the apology. I also do agree that the forums is overly negative and can be a cess pool about it. It's not always unwarranted though, the forums is after meant for feedback, and feedback is usually negative. People who have no issues with the game don't normally have a reason to frequent the forums. They are to busy having fun to even think about this place. The rest who do have complaints wish to be heard and come here to vent. Hoping the devs take notice. I find Reddit to be a bit more positive than here because all of the content creator and influencer energy is over there. Compared to here, we have virtually no content creator positivity, presence, or influence here to mitigate the negativity. And when we do see them, they are usually here to mock and ridicule us for virtue signal PR points. The forums could be a healthier place if stuff like the fashion report was posted here, to name an example. But until then, the negativity will always seem overwhelming. That's not to say Reddit is better because it has it's fair share of problems.I wish to apologize to you, I looked up toxic positivity and it is real. I just never knew it was. I will say people take it too far though. I happen to enjoy FFXIV and my reaction is one of defence when people constantly critize this game. Sure it has faults sure things need to be worked on. But you have to admit some people just critize to jump on the band wagon and this thread is a good example. My hot take is: I'm going to read another thread with a more upbeat take.



That is called "white knighting" and there is nothing more detrimental to a game then a horde of white knights defending even poorly done systems.I wish to apologize to you, I looked up toxic positivity and it is real. I just never knew it was. I will say people take it too far though. I happen to enjoy FFXIV and my reaction is one of defence when people constantly critize this game. Sure it has faults sure things need to be worked on. But you have to admit some people just critize to jump on the band wagon and this thread is a good example. My hot take is: I'm going to read another thread with a more upbeat take.
You can be critical and not be negative. It's actually really good for a game, or anything really, because it can help to improve it. But when you defend a game, no matter what, you are doing nothing but help pull that game down. Not everyone is perfect and if you love something and that thing is being taken in a really bad direction or if things get lazy or half hearted or whatever, its much better to step back and point that out, rather than grab your sword and shield. This is why we have such mediocrity in a lot of things these days, Endwalker alone is proof of that and the white knights who are staunchly defending it against even well thought out criticism, are the biggest part of that problem.
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