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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    In my personal opinion, I think they would do better to be among the "waifu" races. If they're based on female roe, I don't think it'll do a very good job at reducing the Miqo'te population. Imagine how many more Miqo'te there would be if the female Au Ra weren't how they are now and were more like their male counterparts.
    Agreed, why should the majority be deprived of a well-designed attractive lioness race in favor of female roegadyn 2.0? It doesn't make sense. If I were in charge I'd give them a body-type similar to Viera's but with bestial features, and long flowing hair as opposed to a bald-headed look. I'd go for a sort of "Egyptian Queen" vibe for the face/makeup options similar to Elizabeth Taylor's Cleopatra:

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    The Dev team is really bad at both caring and attempting to improve Combat-related issues and design in both PvE and PvP. For someone who "loves" MMO's, Yoshi P. and friends are doing quite a good job at going towards the other direction as it is suppoest to be.
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  3. 02-07-2022 07:46 AM
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    Moving this to a more Appropiate Thread - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/453644-VIERA-AND-HROTHGAR-COMPLAINT-MEG

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    Gender-locked jobs are better than limited jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Gender-locked jobs are better than limited jobs.
    I have mixed thoughts on this in Korean MMO's.
    In a lot of cases the reason why gender-locks exist is because the character you play is an already established character in the lore, they have a name and a backstory etc.
    Vindictus is an example that comes to mind.
    I'd even argue Genshin Impact to some extent.

    Something I also like about it in Korean MMO's is that it tends to open up for pushing masculinity and femininity more because the devs don't have to worry about people getting mad because their male character gets '' girly clothes ''.
    It makes the designs a lot more unique and distinct imo.
    I don't really like the hyper masculinity thing with enormous angry guys but I really like the hyper femininity opposite end.

    Not saying all games need to do this ( altho it does bother me how the masculine is basically always treated as the default women need to adapt to... ).
    But my personal preference is for hyper femininity to be pushed, and I can just accept hyper masculinity as the opposite end so that what I want can exist too.
    I don't think it's possible without gender-locks tho because when it comes to masculinity and what men wear and how they look it's significantly more rigid and people would flip the hell out if their male characters got the same gear as the female characters.
    I mean ffs there's people in FFXIV who lose their minds whenever female characters get a skirt, imagine if they actually did go with the same gear for both genders but *gasp* used the female gear as the default.
    Male characters getting a skirt for a gear set would cause a huge mental breakdown from loud sections of the community.

    FFXIV does have some gendered stuff too but it's the exception and it's usually not the gear itself you get from doing dungeons and raids.
    I do prefer it personally tho when the whole class/ Job has all of its gear and style designed around it.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 02-07-2022 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Male characters getting a skirt for a gear set would cause a huge mental breakdown from loud sections of the community.
    Every male healer in FFXIV says 'Hi'.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Every male healer in FFXIV says 'Hi'.
    I don't think that's the same thing, but yes to some extent it kinda gets into what I mean.
    Even just the hint of something that is perceived as feminine and suddenly it's a gigantic problem, but as a woman/ someone who prefers feminine fashion in 99% of games you're just expected to deal with everything being designed for men first and women being an afterthought.

    The shoe is on the other foot and suddenly reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Even just the hint of something that is perceived as feminine and suddenly it's a gigantic problem, but as a woman/ someone who prefers feminine fashion in 99% of games you're just expected to deal with everything being designed for men first and women being an afterthought.

    The shoe is on the other foot and suddenly reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
    Women tend to look good even if they wear gear that leans more towards the masculine side.
    When men wear feminine clothing, it doesn't look right, at least to me anyway. Probably because a lot of feminine clothing are built around and compliment the female form.

    If you ask me why, I wouldn't really be able to tell you. Women just pull off a wider range of clothing, feminine & masculine, better.
    I'm not saying men shouldn't wear feminine clothing if that's what they want to do. Men can wear feminine clothing if they want and there's no problem with it. I guess this is just another one of my hot takes.
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    hot takes (plural noun)
    a piece of commentary, typically produced quickly in response to a recent event, whose primary purpose is to attract attention.

    I find the lengths people will go to attract attention in the forums to be amusing.

    Note: It isn't a 'hot take' if it's not a response to something recent. 1.0 through end of Shadowbringers isn't anywhere recent enough to deserve consideration as a 'hot take'. Same goes for the OP masquerading as a musicologist.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    hot takes (plural noun)
    a piece of commentary, typically produced quickly in response to a recent event, whose primary purpose is to attract attention.

    I find the lengths people will go to attract attention in the forums to be amusing.

    Note: It isn't a 'hot take' if it's not a response to something recent. 1.0 through end of Shadowbringers isn't anywhere recent enough to deserve consideration as a 'hot take'. Same goes for the OP masquerading as a musicologist.
    Hot take: no one cares about what dictionary warriors have to say.
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