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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I don't care how good its personal dps is, DRK is the worst tank. Might as well let the DRG do it

    (had a chain of bad DRKs all night, let me vent lol)
    Kit wise, you're 100% correct. It's a mish mash of stuff that coincidentally works together. It has no real identity to it, and even its ultimate attack isn't linked to any part of their kit.
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    StarRosie's Avatar
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    Sakya Malha
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I don't care how good its personal dps is, DRK is the worst tank. Might as well let the DRG do it

    (had a chain of bad DRKs all night, let me vent lol)
    I mean, if you look at the four tanks, DRK and GNB are just very lackluster as TANKS, not DPS sticks that hold aggro, but TANKS. Their party support/mitigation kit is super basic in comparison to PLD and WAR. Their support is also designed in a way where it is more beneficial for them to hold and use it selfishly for themselves than actually use it to support and protect the party.
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    Jkap_Goat's Avatar
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    How is the ranger using a Mandau?
    I think it's daggers in that, RNG can use daggers since they have a -B ranking in that combat skills, like If they ever need to get up close and personal to do some Damage
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    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I feel like the new 24 man downplays and trivializes the importance Loiusoix had, and almost mocks his character. "Oh, he summoned the twelve to try to save Eorzea? Well they weren't the real twelve lmao what a loser". Like wtf.
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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    I feel like the new 24 man downplays and trivializes the importance Loiusoix had, and almost mocks his character. "Oh, he summoned the twelve to try to save Eorzea? Well they weren't the real twelve lmao what a loser". Like wtf.
    Didn't Gaius call this out as far back as ARR? to quote our man...

    Are the "Twelve" otherwise engaged? I was given to understand they were your protectors. If you truly believe them your guardians, why do you not repeat the trick that served you so well at Carteneau, and call them down? They will answer--so long as you lavish them with crystals and gorge them on aether. Your gods are no different than those of the beasts--eikons every one.
    He wasn't *fully* correct, as his belief was that the Twelve didn't exist at all and were merely fabrications of faith like any other Primal, but he was completely right that the Twelve Louis summoned were Primals, and this serve to highlight the racism and hypocrisy of Eorzea towards the Beast Tribes, Gaius would've been completely shallow as a character if he was wrong, so to me it was always clear that he was right on the money.

    The raid series also doesn't paint Louis as a "loser" for "failing to summon the real Twelve" at all, quite the opposite, Azeyma considered this feat to be a representation of humanity's hope and faith due to how this allowed them to survive a Calamity.
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Primals based on other beings have literally never been those beings. Shiva wasn't the original Saint Shiva, Thordan wasn't the original King Thordan. Why would the Twelve called by Louisoix be any different?
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    Player Kyrj's Avatar
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    Funyun Knight
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    My hot take is if you're going to impose a strict no third-party tool rule, then get rid of dps checks on fights. How can I tell if I'm putting out the most dps that I can if I have no way of checking it?
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I hate when you get to the point during Tribe Quests when you turn in 2-out-of-3 of your dailies and you rank up your reputation (I think it's usually Respected). You just wasted 30 points and you still have a daily to turn in after you complete the rank up quest. Why not instead of 990, make it 1200? You'd still complete it if you did all the turn-ins. (◎ヮ◎)
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    Viz Vale
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    Spriggan
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    I hate when you get to the point during Tribe Quests when you turn in 2-out-of-3 of your dailies and you rank up your reputation (I think it's usually Respected). You just wasted 30 points and you still have a daily to turn in after you complete the rank up quest. Why not instead of 990, make it 1200? You'd still complete it if you did all the turn-ins. (◎ヮ◎)
    Can't you turn 2 in, do the quest, turn the third in (and accept 3 new ones if you're under rank 7)?
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Player
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Can't you turn 2 in, do the quest, turn the third in (and accept 3 new ones if you're under rank 7)?
    You can (which I do) but it just feels unsatisfying if that makes sense. Like, it doesn't line up. I know it's a small thing that most wouldn't notice but that's what hot takes are for. (ノ^ヮ^)ノ*:・゚✧
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