Future of Limit Break

[Nethereal]

Guys guys, lets not pretend we don't all know why none of the dps want to press the lb button.
Because it doesn't count on their parse. While it is always a dps gain for the party it is always a dps loss for the player.

Add lb damage to someones parse and they'll be frothing at the mouth to press that button.

[Saraide]

Guys guys, lets not pretend we don't all know why none of the dps want to press the lb button.
Because it doesn't count on their parse. While it is always a dps gain for the party it is always a dps loss for the player.

Add lb damage to someones parse and they'll be frothing at the mouth to press that button.

To be fair that's entirely a community decision. You know what also ruins a parse though? Dying to a 1% enrage. If people refuse to LB in a prog setting because of 'muh parse' they are hardcore griefing and the party should really reconsider their approach to that person.

[Nethereal]

To be fair that's entirely a community decision. You know what also ruins a parse though? Dying to a 1% enrage. If people refuse to LB in a prog setting because of 'muh parse' they are hardcore griefing and the party should really reconsider their approach to that person.

Many times being forced to use the lb means the parse is over aka the wipe is justified in their mind since that's the point of the run.
But that's what parse parties are for. Some dps can't get out of that mindset though and bring that baggage to prog and hold statics back for no reason.
Hell just 2 weeks ago my group had to replace our monk because they refused to hold dps during p4s p1 and spent 3 hours dying to lighting during pinax when all we needed was a perfect run.
That and they refused to melee lb despite the many discussions we had about when it was going to be used. Thankfully they had the grace to see themselves out.

[Lihtleita]

maybe if they merged the concept for the xi combo system with something like our active time input system we could have a group LB like ungermax

[Jonnycbad]

Independent limit breaks already exist, they're called Job Gauges. Anything beyond that would literally just be a fancy cooldown that content is balanced around (dps checks, tank checks, healing checks etc)

[van_arn]

LB seems very all or nothing. I can understand lb1 being fairly weak in comparison to lb3, but you’d think there would be situations where lb2 would be preferable to lb3 or lb1.

I’m not sure why that middle tier exists, or what it could be instead.

[Jonnycbad]

LB seems very all or nothing. I can understand lb1 being fairly weak in comparison to lb3, but you’d think there would be situations where lb2 would be preferable to lb3 or lb1.

I’m not sure why that middle tier exists, or what it could be instead.

Depending on performance and specific duty, there is enough Gauge generation to perform LB3 and then Lb2.

[Asari5]

i mean.... tank lb3 is just plot armour at this point. if you need it, they'll just fill it up right before you have to use it.

[Jonnycbad]

i mean.... tank lb3 is just plot armour at this point. if you need it, they'll just fill it up right before you have to use it.

Tank LB3 is great for prog in savage, it's used in several places to cheese mechanics at lower ilvls, for example p2s third arrows

[Deceptus]

I'll always advocate for a FF9 Trance style system.

Every player has their own Limit Break.