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  1. #21
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    You clearly said that you understand that the races are similar to transport people from FFXI to FFXIV. After that i don't understand anything of what you said, for me is a bunch of bla bla bla and nothing to the point. what do u really expect or want from making this threat?
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    MEH. All I want is my viera and lamia races.

    OwO Monmuso Quest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    Truth to be told, you can't tell one Lallafel from the other, but you can tell a Gridanian from a Lominsan. And that is perfectly the point, actually, in XIV. XIV is not based around racial identity but national identity, you don't gain a personality based on what race you are, but what nation you are from. Every race is literally the same to society and that shows, and sincerely it's a thing I personally like.

    Even so there are still a few details visible, Miqo'te are more often than not either cute or lascive, Roegadyn are definitely in the badass range and often angry. I do not pay sufficient attention to the tiny details of other races so I cannot tell, but even so there are tiny diffeirences but the grand focus is still your mother nation.
    Disagree entirely. Under this model for identity we're essentially just midgets... Not very exciting.
    The monolithic societies of FFXI gave the world diversity and clearly defined cultures that added a richness to the world this game completely lacks in its lore and mythology. If you were a Windurstian Tarutaru visiting Bastok or vice versa you were visiting a foreign land and it felt like it. Traveling to another city in FFXIV just feels like exactly that - traveling to another city. Denying each race a unique culture and civilization deprives them all of any real identity or character.

    More over, if each race was given its own home nation the game world would be far more dispersed. Not everyone would be huddled in Ul'dah simply because of the market wards. People would be more inclined to stay in their own nation.

    I started as a Lalafell in Gridania and I feel absolutely zero attachment to that place. It's in the woods. It has a creepy kid with horns. It has people of all sorts wearing silly wooden masks. It does nothing for me because it lacks a core or center that it would otherwise have if it were, for example, the home of the Elves.
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    All you have to do is scroll 2 years back into these forums to find a similar topic.
    That's how old this question is.
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    Ya'll are a bunch of racists. I'm calling Al Sharpton.
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    "My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up."

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    I bet you're that one dick who calls the miqo'te "Mithra" still. Ripped from FFXI =! they should be exactly like FFXI.

    Seriously, get over it.

    Edit: also people seem to forget that Eorzea is basically the USA, a melting pot of various races, none of them being native. So of course there isn't any real race distinction within any of the cities besides Ishgard. Maybe when we move out of Eorzea we'll see more closed minded racist Lalafell/Hyur/etc. We already see that with the Garleans.
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    Last edited by Ruisu; 05-15-2012 at 04:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthTaru View Post
    MY MAIN GRIPE WITH THE RACES NOW
    Is that they have no identity. In FFXI I knew who the Tarutaru were. They were kind, friendly, intelligent, sometimes humble, sometimes arrogant. Sometimes courageous, sometimes cowardly. They had fears, worries, dreams, goals, delights, allies, enemies, a culture, a past, a civilization, a way of life.

    There was lore, history, personality, etc. I had an attachment to them and their civilization. The story telling of FFXI gave players reason to be nationalistic, no matter what race they chose. There was cause to be interested in your nations past as well as reveal its future through continuing with its story. Nobody in FFXI asked fellow players to hastily skip cut scenes so that they could get on and over with the fight at hand. It was commonly understood that everyone would want to see the next chapter in Vana'diel, of their home, of their story, and that was rarely infringed upon.

    In FFXIV, nobody cares.

    In other words, who are we?

    I like that SE used the same races as FFXI but I despise the fact that they didn't give any of them any personality.
    They are as bland and as empty as the copy pasted zones we chocobo through.
    I was going to post pretty much this in this thread but you beat me to it.

    Pretty much exactly this. I think the reason Zaaku feels so attached to Galkas is that there hasn't been any defining racial lore in this game that he can attach himself to. Currently, every race is exactly the same just with different polygons.
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    These topics prove that it was a big mistake reusing the old races like this. They should have either made a direct sequel to XI or make a new MMO that cut off all ties to XI.
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    Didn't Tanaka say in some interview that they kind of had a plan to have character travel between XI and XIV.
    It was some old old article before XIV was out or was during alpha/beta days so can't remember where I read it but that was part of reason he said the characters looked a like...

    But then ... this was Tanaka who told everyone all kinds of stuff for XIV.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Didn't Tanaka say in some interview that they kind of had a plan to have character travel between XI and XIV.
    It was some old old article before XIV was out or was during alpha/beta days so can't remember where I read it but that was part of reason he said the characters looked a like...

    But then ... this was Tanaka who told everyone all kinds of stuff for XIV.....
    He wanted us to enter Eorzea from our Mog Houses in Vana'diel or something.

    Idk what sort of crack he was smoking.
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