Arena question

[Genoreaper]

I've played since launch but check in and out for months. Idk if I've missed anything on the subject. Are the devs completely against wow-esque arena play? I know pvp has always been the neglected child of this game kinda like g grand companies and gold saucer as of late. But I think 2v2s, and 3v3 would be alot of fun

[Nanne]

There have been plenty of Arena type modes over the years and the current 4v4 Feast is being replaced by a new 5v5 game mode. That new mode doesn't play like arena though and its more objective focused And I wouldn't say that devs are against it cause they have tried plenty of times to make more players get into PvP but seeing how community always reacts to even the slightest mention of PvP I would say that the community is against it.

[Genoreaper]

There have been plenty of Arena type modes over the years and the current 4v4 Feast is being replaced by a new 5v5 game mode. That new mode doesn't play like arena though and its more objective focused

Ooo I'll have to check it out. Hopefully it gets a good amount of love

[Nanne]

Ooo I'll have to check it out. Hopefully it gets a good amount of love

So far what they have revealed have tackled the 2 bigger problems the current mode has: limited rewards and strict roles for the teams. In Feast sometimes healer/melee role throttled the queues cause people didn't want to play the jobs with most responsibilities and the new mode is said to be balanced around any combination of jobs being able to have a fighting chance Also the rewards wont anymore be limited to just 100 players but the new battlepass system should bring more people to play it cause you cannot miss a reward if you play.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Also the rewards wont anymore be limited to just 100 players but the new battlepass system should bring more people to play it cause you cannot miss a reward if you play.

Just to go into detail for this, the reward structure is going to be like this:

1.) Battle Pass
Essentially rewards you for playing PvP in general, all modes (Crystal Conflict, Frontlines, Rival Wings) will be supported and will encourage play.

**SPECULATION**
Likely to get around Rival Wings having a lower pop rate it might give a bonus for progression of the pass for a specific mode to encourage playing more than just Frontline-and-forget, with a bonus changing per day.
**END OF SPECULATION**

2.) Crystal Conflict Tier rewards
As per Feast, we will receive our usual rewards for obtaining our tier at the end of a season (not to confuse with battlepass "Series"), which are Bronze, Silver Gold Platinum and Diamond most likely.

3.) Top 100 Crystal Conflict
Top 100 is not a system that will be abolished, but it won't be the only way to get more unique pvp rewards compared to wolfmarks.

[OskarXCI]

Ooo I'll have to check it out. Hopefully it gets a good amount of love

When they add the new Crystal Conflict mode, all jobs will be completely revamped in how they play. Based on the slides that were shown in the Endwalker preview Live Letter, it seems all jobs will have the same actions and the only unique thing for jobs will be their Limit Break or Adrenaline Rush as they are called in PvP. This revamp will affect Frontline and Rival Wings as well.

[kpxmanifesto]

When they add the new Crystal Conflict mode, all jobs will be completely revamped in how they play. Based on the slides that were shown in the Endwalker preview Live Letter, it seems all jobs will have the same actions and the only unique thing for jobs will be their Limit Break or Adrenaline Rush as they are called in PvP. This revamp will affect Frontline and Rival Wings as well.

Not sure how I feel about all job actions being the same across the board, but who knows. It just might work.

[Ransu]

Not sure how I feel about all job actions being the same across the board, but who knows. It just might work.

Ya I'm not really a fan of how that sounds.

[Ransu]

I've played since launch but check in and out for months. Idk if I've missed anything on the subject. Are the devs completely against wow-esque arena play? I know pvp has always been the neglected child of this game kinda like g grand companies and gold saucer as of late. But I think 2v2s, and 3v3 would be alot of fun

Its not that its neglected, because Yoshi has admitted himself he loves pvp and they have tried and over and to get pvp going in this game, but for some reason this games community seems to be overly offended by the existence of pvp......because ya know, how dare any of us want other forms of content other than pve and rp.