Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Liam_Harper]

tl;dr: 90 tank has to be reminded about tank stance about 1/3 through the dungeon, tries to wall pull with an undergeared healer then admits to not having any self-healing, nearly wipes the group a few times until the last hallway pull to the huge pack. At 90 you are not new anymore. You admitting it's your first time tanking while wearing 90 gear does not inspire confidence.

I have a lv90 WAR myself that isn't far off BiS including the Savage pieces. I never run duty finder dungeons on it. I leveled with Squadron and Trust in the past and in this expansion it was my class for farming FATEs to unlock the 60 shared fate bonus in each zone. I keep it primarily for Hunts and just to have one, but occasionally I'll tank raids for FC for fun.

Basically I'm just saying having a level 90 tank means nothing about your dungeon experience. Not everyone is a roulette addict. Also you have to start somewhere, you shouldn't be locked out from learning just because you reached 90 through other means.

In your case, your tank had a great attitude and whoever the player in dark red is, they quite frankly had a terrible attitude. Players like that are the reason we have less tanks in dungeon queues.

[RobynDaBank]

I have a lv90 WAR myself that isn't far off BiS including the Savage pieces. I never run duty finder dungeons on it. I leveled with Squadron and Trust in the past and in this expansion it was my class for farming FATEs to unlock the 60 shared fate bonus in each zone. I keep it primarily for Hunts and just to have one, but occasionally I'll tank raids for FC for fun.

Basically I'm just saying having a level 90 tank means nothing about your dungeon experience. Not everyone is a roulette addict. Also you have to start somewhere, you shouldn't be locked out from learning just because you reached 90 through other means.

In your case, your tank had a great attitude and whoever the player in dark red is, they quite frankly had a terrible attitude. Players like that are the reason we have less tanks in dungeon queues.

Person in dark red is OP I think... If we are a DD 1 is usually the label for us ourselves, 2 is tank, 3 is the healer and 4 is the other DD.

[Cincierta]

I have a lv90 WAR myself that isn't far off BiS including the Savage pieces. I never run duty finder dungeons on it. I leveled with Squadron and Trust in the past and in this expansion it was my class for farming FATEs to unlock the 60 shared fate bonus in each zone. I keep it primarily for Hunts and just to have one, but occasionally I'll tank raids for FC for fun.

Basically I'm just saying having a level 90 tank means nothing about your dungeon experience. Not everyone is a roulette addict. Also you have to start somewhere, you shouldn't be locked out from learning just because you reached 90 through other means.

In your case, your tank had a great attitude and whoever the player in dark red is, they quite frankly had a terrible attitude. Players like that are the reason we have less tanks in dungeon queues.

Typically I'm relaxed and laid back as any job, but when you're trying to level alts and other jobs and get stuck often with people who don't understand the very basics of their jobs, it gets old quite fast. Especially if you end up running into those folk in 80/90 dungeons and despite trying to help people repeatedly but find the advice gets ignored, mostly by people who are just ill-prepared or willingly ignorant. Like the 'you can Holy here whm, the stun helps with my mitigation and survival!' only to be met with 'you don't pay my sub, I do what I want!'

Trying to type between dodging aoes and dpsing to save myself tends to make a lot of my sentences short and brusque, as I only have two hands and ten fingers.

Yes, I felt salty after ending up being a temporary tank and dying because the tank did not put on their stance for 1/3 of the dungeon. I was willing to forgive them until after they pulled the stunt after the second boss. Tanks at 43 really don't get a ton to work with for that wall, and while I'm used to doing w2w as a tank, there are certain dungeons where it is actually detrimental to the rest of the party. Stone Vigil is one of those places where it has never been a very good idea to w2w that last stretch.

When the tank had apologized after the second wipe, it sounded condescending to me, especially after watching them just make a beeline for the wall with sprint while the healer was trying to roll on gear they needed before doing that.

[ZeraSkiratea]

while i get your sentiment.. its Quite easy to forget your tankstance when downsyching, ESPECIALY if you mostly play Endgame content, where it DOSNT remove your tankstance,



Levle 90 tells you nothing about their competence as a tank at any stage except 90. i rarelyplay sub 90 on my PLD anymore currently, when i do i forget tankstance at times, happens, i forget i dont have magic phase till 68, , and i forgeti dont have clemency till 58.


HECK with the changes to a lot of ARR dungeons, i sometimes forget that some ARR dungeons are STILL a PITA to wall to wall pull


also from all the screenshots you posted, he seems like a very "nice person" he apologized for his mistakes etc.


Tunnel vision exists, especialy in certain situations. grinding stuff for a relic via older dungeons? brain goes AFK after a while and i forget the simplest bullshit.


Not having done down synch content in a while? forget tankstance counts as a "buff" and it removes that during downsync and i do not check it at start because i am PLD; my gauge is relativly irelevant to be in visual range( i like my gauge, i just dont need to Look at my gauge nearly as often as other classes so i dont check it)


anyway

TL;dr there are a variety of reassons why a level 90 tank can forget a tankstance, or overestimate how much they can take with the healer..


on that note.. do you know that you can basically wall to wall pull the entirety of satasha?`, with the exception of MAYBE 2 Packs at the VERY start of the dungeon(jsut for safety, if you have a tank with potions thats not an issue) you can pull from the start, to the "coralls" ignoring the Clams and just kill the shit that comes in if you have a healer who realizes whats going on.
after that thhe only "long pull" is after the second captain fight to the boss, which can equally be fully pulled






anyway. my own "tales from the duty finder"


More a rant about people


STOP LEAVING DUTYS EARLY ON!!!!!
I have SO MANY people leave Stuff like aurum vale the SECOND its possible, and then we proceed to clear it first try no deaths in 10 to 12 minutes anyway, he is now stuck in 30 minutes penalty..


Or for gods sake, MSQ roullete, stop leaving Castrum, i had so many "in progress" joins as a tank in castrum, its comical(or peopl eleaving while i am tank)

The XP per minute is EXACTLY identical between it, porta, and praetorium, and given the changes, you can litteraly run a level apropriate dungeon in the time between leaving castrum or porta(who are near identical in time), and when preatorium would end for the same, if not more overall XP!!!!! there is litteraly no advantage anymore for one or the other guys. You just eat a 30 minute penalty at this point

[Cincierta]

while i get your sentiment.. its Quite easy to forget your tankstance when downsyching, ESPECIALY if you mostly play Endgame content, where it DOSNT remove your tankstance,

I had to deal with being drg tank until we got to the first boss and after we were pointing out that they needed stance on. Death is painful, Second Wind and Bloodbath only heal for so much at level 43. I can take punishment, but being ignorant of party chat asking you for tank stance and hearing the constant pinging/arrow spam of aggro changing should be an indicator that, as a tank, you're mucking something major up.

And for a bit I thought I was dealing with another one of those 'you pull you tank' person, hence my salt near the start.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

I have a lv90 WAR myself that isn't far off BiS including the Savage pieces. I never run duty finder dungeons on it. I leveled with Squadron and Trust in the past and in this expansion it was my class for farming FATEs to unlock the 60 shared fate bonus in each zone. I keep it primarily for Hunts and just to have one, but occasionally I'll tank raids for FC for fun.

Basically I'm just saying having a level 90 tank means nothing about your dungeon experience. Not everyone is a roulette addict. Also you have to start somewhere, you shouldn't be locked out from learning just because you reached 90 through other means.

In your case, your tank had a great attitude and whoever the player in dark red is, they quite frankly had a terrible attitude. Players like that are the reason we have less tanks in dungeon queues.

I second this. I've had DRK and WAR since HW and I literally leveled them so my FC had a spare tank to do duties with, just in case. They constitute less than 3% of my overall gameplay and so, when I do roulettes with them (which is very rarely) I always mention that I don't tank often and to pardon my mistakes. I don't expect perfect competency at any level, due to the different ways you can level now that don't include playing with others.

I mean, I get being annoyed but at some point you just have to accept that not everyone is a veteran and even if they are, not every person can play every class/job like its their main. But I usually remember tank stance. So there's that. XD

[AnotherPerson]

After a lose streak in Crystalline conflict (jumping around platinum 1 to 3), I was on a win streak back to platinum 1. My platinum 2 and platinum 1 games were already being matched with diamond players consistently with a few platinum players. My final match in Platinum 1 at 3 stars became matched with Crystal tier players. I was the only Platinum player in that match ... so I have to skip 2 divisions to climb up to diamond.

Anyway, I'm at diamond 5 now .
One more tier left to climb I think?

[Kolsykol]

So uh, I had a strange and bit funny co-tank in weekly P4 for the weapon token.

I saw that he had like 12k ( or even more ) less HP than me so decided to MT, he also watched the cutscene so I assumed he didn't know the fight.
But nope he put tank stance on too and kept provoking.
I didn't even provoke but I kept tank stance on to see what happened and I kept taking over aggro, and he got really mad and started lashing out at me telling me to stop provoking.
I could already tell he was going to die from every mechanic so nah, which is precisely what he proceeded to do and he spent the whole fight with the 50% stat debuff.
But he kept provoking on cd trying desperately to tank.
And he also kept dying to every mechanic lol.

My dude, no one wants a tank who dies to every mechanic and face tanks the boss facing the group and who pulls the boss to weird places.
He just couldn't stop provoking the boss 180 towards the group I felt sorry for the melee.
What really got me was how insistent and confident he was that he was going to MT.
Dude came in with basically the lowest ilvl possible without knowing a thing and got unironically mad when someone who did decided to be MT.

[Renalt]

Had a tank with the YTYP mentality the other day. He got mad at the healer for having the gall to be one step in front of him so he freaks out and turns his stance off. I got fed up with that attitude so I opted to tank the dungeon myself. The healer focus healed me as I tanked as a Machinist the rest of the dungeon. anything 50 and below anyone can pretty much tank so we didn't need him.

[Frizze]

Had a tank with the YTYP mentality the other day. He got mad at the healer for having the gall to be one step in front of him so he freaks out and turns his stance off. I got fed up with that attitude so I opted to tank the dungeon myself. The healer focus healed me as I tanked as a Machinist the rest of the dungeon. anything 50 and below anyone can pretty much tank so we didn't need him.

Honestly, if the healer is on point you can tank any dungeon in the game on a dps class. Source: I have.