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  1. #781
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by icrot View Post
    Today I was doing the roulette and someone used a 7-line macro and bongo sounds just to say 'hello'. Anyway, I was a bit of an ass and replied with 'cringe'. They replied back saying that 'nobody cares' but considering they didn't heal me in the whole duration of the encounter I'd say they indeed cared.

    I know I was in the wrong here but I hate these silly macros, especially if they have annoying system sounds.
    Pretty sure you could have reported them for chat spam, if every single line out of 7 total had a loud sound effect to it. Also for refusing to do their job, to boot - that's called griefing! (:
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    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  2. #782
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    EgilTheStressedMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    Who the hell joins a party in the PF that says it's a blind/practice party and then proceeds to whine that nobody knows what they're doing?

    smh.
    The same people who join/start farm parties and get two out of ten attempts cleared.
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  3. #783
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Sometimes I wonder about people.

    Queued alliance rou on an alt sam, got Orbonne as a replacement dps. Nice! It's a fun raid until it's not.

    First trash: One of the healers was not paying attention during the first trash boss, some people get doomed including me as I teleported in after the arena sealed off, didn't get cleansed of doom and 3 people died in our party. I get rezzed and one of the dps leave.

    Mustadio: I explain quickly and shortly to my party to face the hole to the boss where he's at. I was one of 4 that survived the sniper mechanic and our poor brd kept eating them somehow. Repeated deaths on the dps for not paying attention to mechanics.

    Agrias: I explain again quickly and shortly about the shield mechanic and that you must face her when doing it, people naturally do not pay attention and eat vulns, more die. Sigh.

    Thunder God Cid: I explain quickly about the crosshair marker over your head mechanic, how it chases and I get the first one, doing it correctly until my 3 other co-dps and one of the healers RUNS BACK INTO THE CHASING AOE, getting them killed. I asked why they ran back into my chasing aoe, no response. I then get accused of griefing when they themselves ran back into it. Nearly goes sideways because people don't bother paying attention to mechanics or following the danger dorito the tank placed on themselves. One of the dps finally says they haven't seen this raid in 6 months.

    Ultima: our tank after I explain the Grand Cross mechanic so people don't eat death again and starts going off on a slight tangent about the marker mechanic I explained earlier in chat on TGC. People die still and I get trapped in several aoes, we make it to the transition and naturally people are still dying left and right.

    I think this is the last time I explain mechanics to people and just let them learn by death. Because screw trying to help newbies out so they don't wipe parties, right?
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  4. #784
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Sometimes I wonder about people.

    Queued alliance rou on an alt sam, got Orbonne as a replacement dps. Nice! It's a fun raid until it's not.

    First trash: One of the healers was not paying attention during the first trash boss, some people get doomed including me as I teleported in after the arena sealed off, didn't get cleansed of doom and 3 people died in our party. I get rezzed and one of the dps leave.

    Mustadio: I explain quickly and shortly to my party to face the hole to the boss where he's at. I was one of 4 that survived the sniper mechanic and our poor brd kept eating them somehow. Repeated deaths on the dps for not paying attention to mechanics.

    Agrias: I explain again quickly and shortly about the shield mechanic and that you must face her when doing it, people naturally do not pay attention and eat vulns, more die. Sigh.

    Thunder God Cid: I explain quickly about the crosshair marker over your head mechanic, how it chases and I get the first one, doing it correctly until my 3 other co-dps and one of the healers RUNS BACK INTO THE CHASING AOE, getting them killed. I asked why they ran back into my chasing aoe, no response. I then get accused of griefing when they themselves ran back into it. Nearly goes sideways because people don't bother paying attention to mechanics or following the danger dorito the tank placed on themselves. One of the dps finally says they haven't seen this raid in 6 months.

    Ultima: our tank after I explain the Grand Cross mechanic so people don't eat death again and starts going off on a slight tangent about the marker mechanic I explained earlier in chat on TGC. People die still and I get trapped in several aoes, we make it to the transition and naturally people are still dying left and right.

    I think this is the last time I explain mechanics to people and just let them learn by death. Because screw trying to help newbies out so they don't wipe parties, right?
    Let people die, then explain mechs. I guarantee you people who died to mechs will be very keen on wanting to know why they died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  5. #785
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Let people die, then explain mechs. I guarantee you people who died to mechs will be very keen on wanting to know why they died.
    I probably should start doing that, or just not bother explaining things anymore. It's like every time I try to explain stuff, people do the opposite. Though it's the first time I got accused of griefing by one of the dps that ran back into the mechanic I warned them about.

    Not my fault they were told not to play in traffic but ran in front of the bus.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  6. #786
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    The key is to queue up with a warrior or paladin. Then it won't matter who messes up what mechanics. It won't even matter if the healer survives. The dungeon will be completed.
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  7. #787
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    The key is to queue up with a warrior or paladin. Then it won't matter who messes up what mechanics. It won't even matter if the healer survives. The dungeon will be completed.
    I would, but most of the time I'm solo-queued into roulettes for dailies. Put myself first for once instead of last like I usually do.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  8. #788
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Let people die, then explain mechs. I guarantee you people who died to mechs will be very keen on wanting to know why they died.
    This, very much. Although I went slightly a bit further than that:
    • Let them die, but we clear anyway: silence
    • Let them die, but we wipe: explanation
    • Let them die, then they ask why: explanation

    I’ve had much healthier interactions ever since I adapted this habit. Odd ones still exist, but at least they stick out like a sore thumb when they expose themselves & people know better to not ‘white knight’ for them.
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  9. #789
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    Magni Henriksson
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    Did Aglaia last night. While fighting the first boss, a MCH was targeted by a tank buster and died because me and the two other tanks all managed to forget to put our stances up, or assumed one of the others was going to MT.
    (in my case, it was the latter.)

    Proceeded to yell at us and then quit the raid.



    Sorry, MCH.



    "All bottoms." - Someone after the MCH asked why none of the tanks had their stance up.
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    Last edited by Fredco191; 12-07-2022 at 10:28 AM.

  10. #790
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    Did Aglaia last night. While fighting the first boss, a MCH was targeted by a tank buster and died because me and the two other tanks all managed to forget to put our stances up, or assumed one of the others was going to MT.
    (in my case, it was the latter.)

    Proceeded to yell at us and then quit the raid.



    Sorry, MCH.
    Honestly I'm still surprised Byregot's is the only one that relies on aggro, as no other TB in the raid seems to.

    Leaving seems a little stupid though, but I guess they assumed it'd be a poor run if that's how it started out, and not much time was lost from just getting to the first boss. I think I'm more shocked at how all three tanks didn't put up stance; never seen that happen on Crystal before in all the Alliance raids I've done, usually at least one person instantly throws their stance on (or queued in with it on in Aglaia).
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 04-28-2022 at 09:19 PM. Reason: adjusted post, misread when I was just waking up, i need coffee
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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