Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Aword3213]

With EXP now tied to only bosses instead of mobs, it's not even worthwhile then, unless somebody really wants those extra treasure chests at the end.

Does anyone know the reason behind making such changes?

[SannaR]

I'm not sure why it still baffles me how people get healers or tanks to levels where you'd think knowing their basic tool kit should be a given. Did leveling roulette. Got Aurum Vale. Healer dies first boss cause they didn't eat fruit. Though during the first trash tank almost dies a few times. The healer is the only other one who's synced down and even without looking at their gear is wearing a set that looked like the Star Velvet set. A later gear check confirms this. So after we end up whipping to the main room post 1st boss I start paying more attention to the whm cause they're going through mp like water through a sieve.

I start seeing them medica when they're not around the party and no one really needing it. Them swift casting regen? I looked at the in-game battle log and during the last boss regen is the only spells they use right after it. During the 2nd boss I noticed they chose to use holy. This is when I start giving advice cause whm is my main and by 60 you should know to not use holy on single target. Even during trash packs it's away from groups. Almost no regens or it's on people who don't need it. Even on the final boss outside of adds they still are using holy. Again I tell them that holy and media are based around themselves and they'd be doing more if they threw out aero and stone.

[SannaR]

Does anyone know the reason behind making such changes?

People not many have known to dip out of dungeons after leveling up or a boss not dropping loot they've been fishing for. So they probably changed it to try and counter those practices.

[Shibi]

Does anyone know the reason behind making such changes?

Likely the same SE stated reason for removing spiritbonding at each kill, database load.

Not incrementing our XP every single trash kill makes the load on the database easier, so it can handle more people online.

[Aword3213]

People not many have known to dip out of dungeons after leveling up or a boss not dropping loot they've been fishing for. So they probably changed it to try and counter those practices.

Likely the same SE stated reason for removing spiritbonding at each kill, database load.

Not incrementing our XP every single trash kill makes the load on the database easier, so it can handle more people online.

Thank you.

[Cheremia]

Dear people,

if you buy your friend a story skip and a job skip, please do the following:

Teach them basic movement
Teach them whats generally bad
Teach them how to press buttons to keep the global cooldown rolling
Teach them what off globals are
Teach them what their job is generally doing

Don't make them unlock Copied Factory first thing and then go in
Don't teach them the game as you go, in an Alliance raid

Do go to striking dummies, that are around on different spots, so they get to understand their skills
Do make them read their tooltips
Do go into dungeons with them so they have an easier time understanding

Don't go full feral on our monk because he was wondering why the dancer was standing around for minutes and did autoattack only most of the time and got hit by everything
Don't go full feral on me when i actually try to tell your dancer friend what dancer has to do
Don't hog dance partner for yourself, while also underperforming and not using cards

Tell me, your cohealer, that they will die a lot. I tried my best to keep them alive and ressed them many times before you did. My poor mp.

Dear third person:
Don't defend the Ast, that went FULL feral on us and say "this is not pvp". I give you that, it's a new one, usually it's "not savage". But it's the same energy.
Don't tell me they didn't ask for help in their rotation if the Ast, their friend, LITERALLY tells all of us that they bought them a skip, they are NEW new and they are teaching their friend AS THEY GO. What do you think this means??? That they NEED help! We're their teammates, we can try to help, they had 0 idea of how the game works and got thrown under the bus by their friend that went Copied factory with them because "it's not endgame anymore". What does that even mean, the nier raids aren't made for people that have 0 idea of how any of the game works, including movement.
They didn't use dancepartner, until pointed out (then they gave it to the ast, then took it off between bosses, i dunno) and also didnt use finishes until pointed out, so don't tell me they didnt ask for help when they clearly needed it.

Also i can only guess who it was, but don't take off my triangle, i will put it on every time you take it off.
Because the dancer was not the only one struggling
The dancer was the only one not following me

I really dislike this "if you dont stop talking i'll report you" mentality, when nobody of us did anything reportable, you did. As said, go ahead, report me then. I'm not afraid because I did nothing reportable. Neither did the others.
Your dancer friend also shouldn't threaten to basically grief with "i could also stand around and do nothing", if that's what they were doing in the first place. You two were broderline griefing, so don't announce that you literally would do it for no reason and nobody was hostile, except you, dear ast.

Thank you

PS: I swear, it might be "boring" to do all these things before going anywhere, but believe me. Actually knowing what to do will be more fun than being pulled off the floor for every mechanic they don't know. Which is all of them.

[RobynDaBank]

I wish false reporting actually got somewhere. For instance when you report RMT there's a stern pop-up saying any false flags will have consequences. I low-key wish that if a report is superfluous, the reporter get a message back - even if copy/pasted - telling them why the report was false and what situations a rule applies to. It would be more educational and would deflate egos down a bit IMO.

[Cheremia]

Add on

Of course you can't ask for help if you dont mention it in the first place and hope nobody notices and or mentions it.
They really thought the dancer dying to everything and doing nothing will never be noticed and mentioned.

I'm sorry, dear ast, i still stand by: dont get salty if you tell people that they are new new, so new that they cant even move right yet and also be salty if people are genuenly trying to help with what dancers do.
You didnt do a good job helping your friend be prepared and I bet they did not have a lot of fun, even if nobody said anything, because they died to every mechanic thrown at them, multiple times.

I will not be painted as bad guys because people are allergic to help. "tHeY dId NoT aSk FoR iT", you could have and they would have known way much more about the game afterwards. You didnt because, in your own words "we don't have to tell you crap about anything", why would you want anybody to help if you think throwing new people at Nier raids does anything for their enjoyment.
Did you know that you can teach them as much as you want during the raid where they know nothing and get mechanics thrown at them to dodge and also have to somehow dps. They didnt manage either. What fun gameplay for them, am i right.

Did you rather want us to kick her? Because we could have.

You didnt even throw your friend abone and mark yourself. I did, it was me. Markers help A LOT. I know, because i was lead by marked people AND lead as marked person myself.

Sorry for the extra rant, i'm not even mad about it. Just baffled by how feral somebody can get for no reason because "I TEACH THEM, YOU SHUT UP! EVEN IF I AM DOING A BAD JOB AT IT! I AM TEACHING HER DONT YOU SEEEEEEEEE!!!" when nothing changed between first and last boss other than them doing what we said they should do (dancepartner and dances). They were struggling and dying from start to finish.

Please, don't be allergic to help. Help is not looking down on you. You are clearly struggling. It has nothing to do with wanting you do be a godgamer, i don't care. It has to do with doing the basic functions of what you play as.

Why would somebody not help if you are clearly struggling, just because "i didnt ask for it". You didn't, but knowing what better to do is bad WHY?
I really also dislike this mindset. Please help me when i'm struggling, even if i dont ask for it.

[Absimiliard]

Got into a Tower of Zot with a healer (WHM) and tank (DRK) that both had Burger King crowns and Ultimate Legend titles. Both of them got absolutely murdered by the first boss. Second one was mostly okay, but oh man... the pull leading up to the last one was not fun. The healer wanted to play dangle the tank with tank that seemed to have no concept of mitigation. Anywho, tank does the first big pull. He then proceeds to die immediately upon the mobs becoming stun immune. We try again, same thing happens. The tank and healer then begin blaming the DPS for this issue despite the mobs having been close to dead by the end of the WHM's Holy spam stun cycle both times. Eventually we do reach the second big pull, at which point the SMN sees which way the wind is blowing and hits the LB. The DRK still dies, but we manage to kill the remaining mobs before it turns into a wipe. They berated the SMN for using the LB despite it having directly prevented a wipe.

The last boss was uh... well, I did not realize it was possible to get so many vuln stacks in a single mechanic, but the tank sure did. WHM wasn't healing anyone other than the tank despite the dot slowly murdering us, and the DRK still wasn't bothering to mitigate anything. We wipe again to the surprise of no one, at which point they initiate a vote to kick on the SMN. I vote against it, but it goes through anyway for obvious reasons. I get kicked a few seconds later.

[Avatre]

snipped for length.

I've seen a lot of bad DNC lately...and as a DNC main it really hurts the soul.

Had a DNC partner me while I was leveling SAM(either Friday night or Saturday morning) that didn't use Standard Step except on the first pull, and one of the last three pulls. It wasn't up any other time. Don't even think about Technical Step being used. They were also way off from the trash packs that they weren't able to AoE them at all.

Another yesterday while working in NIN that let SS fall off every pull, and would only use it once at the start usually before most mobs were in range.


As for my own story, had two wipes on the dragon in The Burn yesterday. The BLM and I tried to kill it from 40%, then 20% - which we potentially could have if I realized the BLM died while casting the LB before it was too late and I was hit the last time to kill me. The PLD and AST(pretty sure it was AST) died due to the DOT from the ice.