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  1. #1521
    Player
    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Great Hunt EX (yet again). 3 mentors and sprout healer (yet again). Said healer has cleared "like 6x" but didn't really know any of the mechanics (even suggesting to go on the back) and still chose to queue through DF regardless. Tank (pronouns in bio) says "shut up" upon me innocuously questioning why healer would queue for the fight instead of running it unsynced or using PF. BLM says nothing the entire time, dies a few times without accepting returns, and uses LB on Rathalos while he's flying. Despite the first phase of this fight being easier than the second, it (yet again) has several more wipes than the latter (after tank claimed "99% of these runs take less than a few attempts"). Guess he's had better luck, albeit not this one time.

    Very next queue is another Great Hunt EX with the same healer. Noped out of that one.

    IDK why Crystal healers do this to themselves. I did this fight via PF just like everyone else, and now I have about 20 spare EX scales.

    Yeah, I abandoned Mentor roulette a long time ago. I don't even bother to unlock it, even when the requirements change. A full instance timer of wiping to Thordan Ex 10 seconds in repeatedly was all it took to make me decide that it is not worth my time. I'll sometimes hop around random groups in the PF and help out (without my crown on, haven't worn it for a long time now), or on rare occasion enter my server's NN. I'm still doing my part, even if people aren't aware that I'm a mentor.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-24-2022 at 02:25 PM.

  2. #1522
    Player
    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aoi Fukuhara
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Just had 2 hours in the 6.2 ex trial as my first ex trial after byakko ex in stormblood. If you read this and were in my fc mates group with me. Thank you for your patience.
    We didn't clear as i was one of the healers. My fc mate put up a blind learning party so people knew what to expect.
    Tried my absolute best but this is another level...
    Appreciated the group we had, big time though.
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  3. #1523
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Shadowflare - Ward Miasma II, Plot Broil IV
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    P6N from Normal Raid Roulette, as a SCH.

    At some point in the fight co-WHM typed "Reiner, I don't know what you're doing but keep doing that."

    Right after that, shit hits the fan (sort of). At least 2-3 players died to mechanic, literally one shotted possibly to stacking some sort of AoE. One of them is a SMN who I swift'raised (co-WHM also overwrite my raise), then this SMN proceeded to do something, effectively removing that raise invuln and dropped dead again. Co-WHM proceeded on typing "Sorry SMN for not topping you up."

    Would've retorted to their first comment by saying "Heal more? Oh you mean that invisible Whispering Dawn that you neutered with your Plenary Medica II+Rapture+Assize?" to their response against first Dark IV the boss threw. Also sorry for noticing how you could've just used that Raptured Lilies for Solace when the tank needs it, those Cure IIs must be pricey. But all these would require me to sit still to type all that quippy remark and made me eat bad stuffs which would've probably fueled their validations and make the run harder for the party. Yeah, I'm not doing that. Here, a pity Fey Blessing/Union/Soil for ya'all.

    I think the cringiest/funniest part was when they just had to type an entire sentence how the blame is theirs for not topping the SMN up when it was 100% clear that SMN died in less than 2s after reviving, aka hinting toward not making a good use of their raise invuln. Sure, WHM probably felt nervous from the shit hitting the fan suddenly from mistakes they could not control (As usual, #justpugthings) but at that point after they made their first comment, it's hard to not think that as a soft attack... which I laughed hard at. So hard I got distracted a bit I ate bad stuff a bit and get to dance giggity jiggity for a moment Also what do you (the WHM) think I felt when my very first cooldown pretty much neutered by your enthusiasm? Y'know what? Go ahead and heal up, I'll be a Broil Mage

    That being said the run didn't last too long, clear time was pretty average, what you would normally expect from an NR roulettes.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 09-25-2022 at 09:18 AM.

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  4. #1524
    Player
    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Friel Wyndor
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I'd choose the reset and let others back into the fight
    I had a situation like this when I was tanking that big rotating book boss in the Great Gubal Library. Everybody else had died to various things, and because the boss doesn't really hit that hard outside of AoEs that I was already familiar with, it seemed like I could probably just solo the rest of the fight on my own. But when I realized that it was going to take A WHILE for that to happen, I told the group "I'm just gonna wipe, I feel like this is boring for the rest of you."

    There comes a point where it's a matter of: 1) If I do screw up and die at some point, then I've REALLY wasted a bunch of time for nothing, and 2) If I succeed, it's really not all that impressive anyhow. What am I trying to prove?
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  5. #1525
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
    World
    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    P6N from Normal Raid Roulette, as a SCH.

    At some point in the fight co-WHM typed "Reiner, I don't know what you're doing but keep doing that."

    Right after that, shit hits the fan (sort of). At least 2-3 players died to mechanic, literally one shotted possibly to stacking some sort of AoE. One of them is a SMN who I swift'raised (co-WHM also overwrite my raise), then this SMN proceeded to do something, effectively removing that raise invuln and dropped dead again. Co-WHM proceeded on typing "Sorry SMN for not topping you up."

    Would've retorted to their first comment by saying "Heal more? Oh you mean that invisible Whispering Dawn that you neutered with your Plenary Medica II+Rapture+Assize?" to their response against first Dark IV the boss threw. Also sorry for noticing how you could've just used that Raptured Lilies for Solace when the tank needs it, those Cure IIs must be pricey. But all these would require me to sit still to type all that quippy remark and made me eat bad stuffs which would've probably fueled their validations and make the run harder for the party. Yeah, I'm not doing that. Here, a pity Fey Blessing/Union/Soil for ya'all.

    I think the cringiest/funniest part was when they just had to type an entire sentence how the blame is theirs for not topping the SMN up when it was 100% clear that SMN died in less than 2s after reviving, aka hinting toward not making a good use of their raise invuln. Sure, WHM probably felt nervous from the shit hitting the fan suddenly from mistakes they could not control (As usual, #justpugthings) but at that point after they made their first comment, it's hard to not think that as a soft attack... which I laughed hard at. So hard I got distracted a bit I ate bad stuff a bit and get to dance giggity jiggity for a moment Also what do you (the WHM) think I felt when my very first cooldown pretty much neutered by your enthusiasm? Y'know what? Go ahead and heal up, I'll be a Broil Mage

    That being said the run didn't last too long, clear time was pretty average, what you would normally expect from an NR roulettes.
    With them even apologizing to the SMN later on in the run, I kinda feel like they may have been sincere in their comment to you.

    I couldn't for the life of me tell you specifically what skills an AST or SCH are using during fights, but I can tell when my co-heal is helping out vs just being a lazy bum. I would have taken the comment as actual appreciation.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 09-29-2022 at 07:46 AM.

  6. #1526
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Character
    Feline Good
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 50
    My will to continue questing on the alt is slowly dissolving. Had an awful Paglth'an where I was ressing both DPS repeatedly through the whole dungeon. Even during pulls they'd somehow manage to die(and the tank was keeping aggro), so I'm ressing random DPS . Both died around 4 times during lunar, but we cleared. And they were both kind and grateful, which actually made it feel a bit better.

    Tower of Zot on the other hand... The two DPS were a couple(I know, I stalked everyone's examines prior to the dungeon, shame on me). No one threw out a greeting at the start. I know this is weird but even though I'm anti-social myself I always through out a "o7" at the start of duties and it feels good when other people greet. We'll never talk through the rest of it but it's comforting. I don't know, it reassures me that they're human I guess. The good news is that they don't die during the pulls. The bad news is that they are dying during the first two bosses at every opportunity. The second Tower of Zot Boss is really, really easy as well(much slower paced). It's really, really not that hard to follow me and the tank to the safe spots. The husband finally asked me if I could res any slower and I straight up x'd out of the client. I am healing you people after every mistake, I'm ressing you both each asap even when I have to hard cast. It's not a stressful fight to do this in but it's still bothersome when it feels like you're constantly doing it.

    Someone will probably tear into me for making a big deal out of one but not feeling as strongly about the other, but I think a bit of kindness in those situations helps.
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  7. #1527
    Player
    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Ivan Moondiver
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    It was a week or some days ago but i feel bad for the new sprout healer in Dead Ends, our team was basically WAR (me), WHM (sprout) and 2 DNC.
    The sprout immediately died to the debuff that he didn't esuna and we kept going without him at ease with no other deaths.

    Same with 2nd boss, died to the first aoe combo and rest kept going.
    Only the 3rd boss he didn't die and it was nice.

    I didn't want to reset though since the composition is probably one of the best for sustain lol
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  8. #1528
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    Mosselyn's Avatar
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    Character
    Mosselyn Desrien
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Helping a friend level yesterday, we had a BLM twice in Dzemael who was wearing crafting gear. As in the only combat gear they had on was a lvl 26 weapon, a pair of lvl 5 boots, and a +strength ring. Everything else was crafting gear. And they were a mentor...

    I called them on it, but of course they didn't respond. I felt so trolled! If we'd got them for a 3rd dungeon, I was going to abandon the duty and eat the penalty.
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  9. #1529
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    BeerMusketeer's Avatar
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    Beer Musketeer
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Playing through the MSQ again on an alt, got to Mt. Gulg today and I encounter something I've never seen to this extent. It was my fellow dps, a mentor with every combat job at level 90, not using AoE, like at all even on double packs. He played RDM but didn't use his melee combo once the entire run. I'm pretty sure I even saw him hardcast those spells with like 4 seconds cast time at some point.

    How does this happen? Did I encounter a bot, or was he just literally playing with one hand, or could someone seriously play that much and still be that bad?
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  10. #1530
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    Kansene's Avatar
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerMusketeer View Post
    Playing through the MSQ again on an alt, got to Mt. Gulg today and I encounter something I've never seen to this extent. It was my fellow dps, a mentor with every combat job at level 90, not using AoE, like at all even on double packs. He played RDM but didn't use his melee combo once the entire run. I'm pretty sure I even saw him hardcast those spells with like 4 seconds cast time at some point.

    How does this happen? Did I encounter a bot, or was he just literally playing with one hand, or could someone seriously play that much and still be that bad?
    I encountered a RDM in Don Mehg who did a similar thing (albeit kinda reverse I guess?), also a mentor. They only ever used elemental spells, never unaspected. No jolts, no impacts ever. On every fight, whether single target or AoE, they would hardcast veraero II/Verthunder II, and use their dual casts on veraero/verthunder. At least they did the melee combo though, and it didn't ruin the run or anything. But it did lead to the tank dying a few times because the trash fights took so long that I literally went out of oGCDs to heal them with, and since nearly all the trash was still alive when that happened, my GCD heals couldn't really outpace the damage the poor tank was getting.
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