Yeah 100%.
Earlier today I saw a number of PF groups with the description of '' help me kill so I can farm ''.
Like dude... Cmon... Please...
Don't just kill it once then jump to farm groups -_-......
So many groups with Pinax memes, ppl not knowing when to use knockback and getting insta-killed then wiping the group or not baiting the line attacks in Act 3 and killing the group or screwing up at the final phase and blowing up towers too early or not knowing the red tether order in Act 4.
Just over and over and over and over and over and over again.
I dunno what goes through their heads it's a complete lack of respect for other peoples time.
So reading that story made me remember a run I had two weeks ago I had in that lvl 90 dgn Robot-Sphere boss at the end (forgot dgn name) with drk, me as rpr, sch and forgot the other dps (might've been smn). So we go through the first w2w pull and I get aggro but like from only 2 mobs and I think nothing of it. In fact, I figure I might've smacked some too hard in transit so I just do the proper thing and stick to tank cuz I know he'll grab it, which he does. Then we do another w2w, same thing happens, I'm on tank, he picks them up, rinse and repeat. Then we get to first boss, clear that then move on to next w2w pull.
This time, however, I snag all aggro from the first pack, even though tank was 2 secs ahead of me. I do a double take because there's no way I should've grabbed aggro first if tank ran through the pack first. I look at party bar and I see he tank stance on. I'm still holding onto the aggro until the next pack, to which then everything gets grabbed by the tank. It's at that point I have a suspicion of what was happening but I decided to wait for next w2w pull.
For that one, I'm right behind the tank by 1 sec but this time, I decide to not smack anything in transit and just watch the drk does...aaaand suspicion confirmed: dude was just simply running through the mobs without any aoe. He would only do so after getting all the mob packs, then aoe, which explained why I would always get aggro. So I just type: "My dude, you actually have to use unleash to smack all the mobs to keep aggro when you're running through the packs."
Luckily for me, he actually does this for the remainder of the run. We get to final boss, sch /comforts me, to which I chuckle to, we clear boss with no issues and I give my com to tank for actually listening.
Then I ask myself how long this tank had been doing this kind of w2w pulling until I pointed it out and no one might have noticed or said anything until that point.
Luckily some of those pre-50 dungeons can be tanked by the healer if it really got bad...but DPS would have to be super horrible for the Healer to heal aggro.
When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.
Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.
So I've been running one my alts from the beginning of HW thru EW. I just hit 5.2 on her. Now my go to class has been DNC since it dropped but for whatever reason I decided on SMN for this one. (Dear Yoshi-P please give me both EW SMN and ShB SMN, kthxbai).
A couple days ago I hit Dying Gasp. I do the "sprout" thing and watch the intro and pre-boss CS (it's been awhile anyway). One of the mentors joked about being 3 runs away and having to do a "hard" trial. When I did this Day 1 it was rough. Heck the first one I did ended in a disband. This time? Nailed it. Honestly had some really great groups throughout.
And then comes The Grand Cosmos. I love this one. I've run it dozens of times when it was part of Expert Roulette so I knew it well. Zone it, do the "sprout" thing again. Aaaand the tank is too. Except they're a bona fide sprout. Aaand so is everybody else. The poor dragoon ate every mechanic. To be fair I'm a bit rusty and got tagged by the brooms a few times. We manage to bull through until the final boss.
Back in the day Lugus was a PUG killer. He still hurts. After the 2nd wipe I explain most of the mechanics (If you're burning blue go set some furniture or drapes on fire) which helped tons. Had to scrape the healer off the floor a few times. Dragoon still kept eating mechs so we left him on the floor (the healer was OoM and the boss had a sliver of health so, YOLO)
No comms. Not one. (I'm far more amused than salty)
I'm... not sure what I walked into today. OFC it was as BLM.
I saw that the Leveling Roulette had Adv. in Need for DD, so I queued right in. I noticed that it verified that only 1 player was ready to enter - meaning I was going to be put into a Duty in Progress. Sure enough, it was Vanaspati. Right at the start of the dungeon, too. There were two people present: a DRK, and a SAM DD who had the Mentor of Mentors title (but no crown). I typed up a "xD, people left at Vanaspati pop?" thinking that one person had first exited seeing what dungeon it was, and then the other had followed suit. I got no answer... but two minutes later...
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I hope this isn't name and shaming because surnames are hidden.
Anyway, it was already 70 minutes into the instance, and the SAM left after a long wait yielded no result. Me and the DRK silently emoted at each other, waiting patiently until finally one NIN joined. I /clap at them, they /cheer back but that was it. Strangely... the DRK then asked in French: are you searching for a [free] company? I wasn't sure who they were talking to so I stayed quiet, and the NIN didn't reply either. We finally had an AST queue in. Oh, did I mention both the AST and NIN were Mentors? Clearly the only people that had gotten to get into this Duty in Progress were warm bodies tossed into our empty dungeon from the Mentor Roulette.
Anyway, we begin. And... the DRK was single targeting. Not just single pulling, mind you. How do I know this? Well, I kept catching aggro from my Flares pretty quickly. The DRK didn't even Provoke, finally start AoEing, or do literally anything to salvage the situation. I wanted to already scream, but IDK how the AST kept us all up. I was pretty much tanking the entire time with Manaward always on CD. I became genuinely curious what they do on bosses, and OFC they were messing up on the first one almost all the time. Saw no defensives the entire fight, either.
Everything was pitch silent, until I finally cracked at a pack and typed "where AoE". Nothing. I didn't even want to switch to single targeting because I'm sure that if I did that, this dungeon would have actually timed out. I once saw Trick Attack debuff on one enemy while damaging, and realized the NIN was STing as well at this point. It was agonizing, and full hats off to the AST for their patience and ability to heal a squishy DD up. They even had the sense to Rescue me when I was about to run off out of their range while kiting.
Last boss somehow had only the NIN dying a couple times. Can't fathom how the DRK was managing mechanics - I was too preoccupied to deal with my own to track him. I did see a Shadow Wall buff on them at one time so perhaps they'd finally pulled themselves together? Or, they were using their defensives as an emergency? I don't know.
At least it leveled my BLM to 90, gaining me the Magic's Horizon title.
Mortal Fist
Srsly not even just okay P1S farm groups are possible apparently xD...
I don't understand why it's so much worse than weekly reclear even.
Last attempt where I lost my patience with the recent one was attempt 8 or something, and the GNB Tank was literally running in a circle on the blue shackles mark.
Always had excuses for why the screw up, Discord messages/ warnings, some1 speaking to them irl, '' forgot '', my dog ate my homework.
And DNC every pull standing around mid all confused until last sec where they ran into whatever spot was empty ( prob didn't know what to do either ) and me having to constantly Rescue BLM or the other Healer out of getting damage down from the prison cells.
People not being in their intemp lanes etc etc...
I legit don't understand how it can be so bad, I rly want to know what goes through peoples heads when these people join farm groups.
I unironically had a better time with a kill group I helped out in P3S and P4S, they were better than like at least 8 out of 10 people I play with in farm groups.
Why is it always the baddies that decide that they know best? Watched this alliance tank sit there telling off other tanks for spinning the boss before they proceed to spin the boss themselves, killing a handful of people because they ignored a simple mechanic and had to run to a cleanse pad. The entire raid they used only a handful of mitigations which was ridiculous.
I swear it's very, very rare that I see people that know what they're doing get aggressive or take a bossy attitude towards the rest of the group.
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