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  1. #1001
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    Wait... What? I mean if things are going poorly (like the tank being squish) then I'd attribute it more to poor CD use or lack of experience over gear, because that gear? Perfectly acceptable in that dungeon. -In fact, I'd have checked the DPS gear over the tank's because unless the tank wasn't keeping enmity, the disposal of trash is the primary job of your DPS. Not them.

    I have healed that multiple times. In 580 gear. Unmelded (because let's face it--melds are useful but absolutely not needed in casual content. Especially dungeons). I do agree that healing pugs is its own challenge, but nitpicking that gear is just... Really? Is this where we're at right now? A baby step below BiS and that's it. Intolerable.

    *Sigh* This game sometimes, I swear.
    Isn't the dead ends ilvl synced anyways? Pretty sure it syncs to i570 at most. If you're above 570 then you're absolutely fine.

    Besides that DRKs tend to be a bit high maintenance and you feel it if they aren't using their mitigation more than other tanks. Even if they do pop TBN as frequently as possible though, they tend to need more heals and attention, especially if your DPS slacks off. If the pull takes too long to clear then it will be very, very rough.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 07-01-2022 at 07:22 AM.

  2. #1002
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    (Insults are cute, when there's the ability to actually gauge someone's skill. )


    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Isn't the dead ends ilvl synced anyways? Pretty sure it syncs to i570 at most. If you're above 570 then you're absolutely fine.

    Besides that DRKs tend to be a bit high maintenance and you feel it if they aren't using their mitigation more than other tanks. Even if they do pop TBN as frequently as possible though, they tend to need more heals and attention, especially if your DPS slacks off. If the pull takes too long to clear then it will be very, very rough.
    Yep. I ran it on DRK again today for comparison's sake with a healer friend. I dipped here and there, but not nearly as bad as the other player.

    I've covered all the roles and can pick up on things that other people need tools for. DPS probably could've been a little better on the run i originally mentioned, but that's not where the problem was. It wasn't with me either. I've maintained all sorts of tanks, including a DRK that blew all his MP on offense even though I tried to tell them about TBN.
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  3. #1003
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Kujata
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    Just amusing pics. Taken in the same week:




    I HAD to double check the last one. xD
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  4. #1004
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    I see these people. I cringe a little, then I laugh because people are mad I wear jeans, breaking immersion.
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  5. #1005
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    To that random SCH I was paired with in EW 6.1 dungeon 8 minutes ago...

    I promise you I wasn't boliding to spite you. I manually typed "boliding this one" to warn you ahead of time that I'm going to drop dangerously low in health in said pull, because we got a pair of excessively chatterbox mentor DNC and newcomer RPR who consistently stays lower than you in enmity order list from either "I'm focusing the morbol lol" or outright not doing anything because you can't type 1 full paragraph without dropping whatever you're doing in combat.

    Like, I get it. As an outgoing introvert, I like to join in conversation when the mood is right when there isn't anything to do (i.e. auto running to next pack). But rather than dragging the pulls, how about we deal with the pull because that SCH was giving her everything (albeit inefficiently) to handle the lengthy pull? Normally bolide wasn't even needed at all in this dungeon, but I had to because we were both stretching our resources thin.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  6. 07-03-2022 11:08 AM

  7. #1006
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    Was your second healer saying anything? I tend to confront bad co-healers after the first or second pull on which we have wiped because of lack of heals.
    I can't remember the second Healer saying anything, tbh I am not the type of person to get really hung up on failure unless it's a kill group for the first time and people are blatantly lying and trying to get carried.
    That's when I have very little patience especially after spending whole weeks repeatedly trying to get a kill before and then having ppl join when they can't get past the first phase.

    Reason why the case in question upset me was because I was being blamed for the failure when it wasn't my fault.
    I've never healed P4S past Act 3 so I dunno how intense it is at the end, but I felt like it was a shielding issue for the most part at least.
    Because I never saw any shields coming out and it was the SCH that was blaming me.
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  8. #1007
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Skipping the story and asking people not to play under the influence. Bad things happen. People's time is wasted.
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  9. #1008
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    Katoar's Avatar
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I use all of my defensive tools every time I am doing this, even if I didn't ( WHICH I FREAKING DID ) it still wouldn't have changed a bit because we simply weren't getting shields and heals.
    This was a SCH too btw, and I don't think we got a single shield in the last phase.
    Boss targeted debuffs don't reduce damage from tether breaking AoE-s during Curtain Call.
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  10. #1009
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    Boss targeted debuffs don't reduce damage from tether breaking AoE-s during Curtain Call.
    Not sure about that one tbh, but unless I am mistaken it does against the recurring big casted AoE at least.
    If what you're saying is true tho then that makes the SCH's complaint even sillier rofl.

    But yeah sometimes I wonder if target debuffs on bosses work when it's things like tethers or towers exploding.

    Edit: I wish I had known this so I could've brought it up to make them look dumb tbh lol.
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  11. #1010
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Not sure about that one tbh, but unless I am mistaken it does against the recurring big casted AoE at least.
    No wait, I was wrong. I remembered it incorrectly. Reviewed resources of my logs, when tether breaks the damage source is Hesperos 14 or some other number but if Addle or Feint was applied on Hesperos, the damage of Hemitheos's Dark IV was reduced. My bad sorry.

    But still, not a reason for SCH to behave like that. Logs are for log runs. Reclears are for gear.
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