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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    Pretty much everything you stated is often why people mistake them for having draconic ancestry in the first place. Still doesn't mean Au Ra = dragons. Au Ra existed on the Source before Middy ever showed up and official sources (doesn't get more official than the game itself) are pretty clear that they have nothing to do with each other. The game also makes it quite clear that dragons are from another planet; hell, we visit a partial memory of that planet in Endwalker. For Au Ra to be descended from dragons the devs would need to throw lore out the window.
    You clearly didn't read my entire post

    Middy arrived after the first was split from the source, this much we agree on.
    So where did the legend of dragons come from on the first, and the dragons in the tempest that we can fight in the overworld? Or the dragons in the 13th? And why do the au ra have a literal dragonspeak name on the first and so many otherwise dragon exclusive traits? The dragons must have travelled the rift at some point is the only plausible answer

    There was also no confirmation that au ra existed before dragons did in game or out of game. On the contrary dragons came before the au ra did, since it was during the period when all the new races were coming about that au ra came to be that middy arrived according to vrtra.

    Therefore, au ra decending from dragons and in other shards too can happen as is repeatedly implied.

    to say that au ra being draconic would require throwing all lore out the window is nonsense. Because everything i wrote in my posts is also from official sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    You clearly didn't read my entire post

    Middy arrived after the first was split from the source, this much we agree on.
    So where did the legend of dragons come from on the first, and the dragons in the tempest that we can fight in the overworld? Or the dragons in the 13th? And why do the au ra have a literal dragonspeak name on the first and so many otherwise dragon exclusive traits? The dragons must have travelled the rift at some point.

    There was also no confirmation that au ra existed before dragons did in game or out of game. On the contrary dragons came before the au ra did, since it was during the period when all the new races were coming about that au ra came to be that middy arrived according to vrtra.

    to say that au ra being draconic would require throwing all lore out the window is nonsense. Because everything i wrote in my post is also from official sources.
    I did read it, I just strongly disagree. Given we know the Fae of the First can just zip between planets apparently(via dreams), if the mood strikes them (Feo Ul does this even before becoming King), it's not unheard of that stories could travel. Lets be real, here; myths about big, magic lizards aren't exactly original, either. Further, Vitra never says the Au Ra showed up after dragons did. Where are you getting this from?

    Saying everything you stated is supported by lore is a longshot, and more a case of seeing something that was never there to begin with and thus looking for patterns that don't exist. Sometimes a bird is really just a bird, not a mage in disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    to say that au ra being draconic would require throwing all lore out the window is nonsense.
    it really does, because the dev team explicitly stated that Au Ra are not draconic. that's just kind of a hard stop.
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