Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
Pretty much everything you stated is often why people mistake them for having draconic ancestry in the first place. Still doesn't mean Au Ra = dragons. Au Ra existed on the Source before Middy ever showed up and official sources (doesn't get more official than the game itself) are pretty clear that they have nothing to do with each other. The game also makes it quite clear that dragons are from another planet; hell, we visit a partial memory of that planet in Endwalker. For Au Ra to be descended from dragons the devs would need to throw lore out the window.
You clearly didn't read my entire post

Middy arrived after the first was split from the source, this much we agree on.
So where did the legend of dragons come from on the first, and the dragons in the tempest that we can fight in the overworld? Or the dragons in the 13th? And why do the au ra have a literal dragonspeak name on the first and so many otherwise dragon exclusive traits? The dragons must have travelled the rift at some point is the only plausible answer

There was also no confirmation that au ra existed before dragons did in game or out of game. On the contrary dragons came before the au ra did, since it was during the period when all the new races were coming about that au ra came to be that middy arrived according to vrtra.

Therefore, au ra decending from dragons and in other shards too can happen as is repeatedly implied.

to say that au ra being draconic would require throwing all lore out the window is nonsense. Because everything i wrote in my posts is also from official sources.