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  1. #91
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    If I remember right, the reason was "player feedback", they argued players don't wanna have as many ultimates because they need more time to clear them. Which later changed into "we only have 1-2 devs capable in the industry of doing these ultra fights, so they don't have the capacity anymore".
    They should just be honest and say 1 per addon then from now on, instead of telling raiders a 2nd might maybe come/maybe not - and get them all hyped and geared up in preparation, so they keep subbing to unlock the raidtiers etc. and then they get no content lol. It is a bit much ambiguity sometimes.
    Let's be honest here. They don't want to announce only one Ultimate because it guaranteed a lot of raiders will simply unsub afterwards. Stringing a second or even third along keeps those players subbed because they have to be prepared in case it actually happens.
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  2. #92
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Let's be honest here. They don't want to announce only one Ultimate because it guaranteed a lot of raiders will simply unsub afterwards. Stringing a second or even third along keeps those players subbed because they have to be prepared in case it actually happens.
    dont they also say its ok to unsub if you have nothing to do and to come back later?
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    dont they also say its ok to unsub if you have nothing to do and to come back later?
    They say things like that to earn brownie points with their fans, but the way they run the game and their actions in the past don't really support the notion. They're a company running a subscription game, and it's within their interest to keep you subscribed for as long as possible. There have been multiple instances where they've decided on a delay or cancellation well ahead of time, but didn't actually notify the player-base until the proverbial last minute.
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  4. #94
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    They say things like that to earn brownie points with their fans, but the way they run the game and their actions in the past don't really support the notion. They're a company running a subscription game, and it's within their interest to keep you subscribed for as long as possible. There have been multiple instances where they've decided on a delay or cancellation well ahead of time, but didn't actually notify the player-base until the proverbial last minute.
    Agree. Is one of those "don't pay attention to what they said but to what they do". FFXIV has quite a few system that are just there to try to keep you sub as long as they can. However, FFXIV is also designed to make returning "easy" (at the same time GL trying to do content no longer popular) compare to other MMO's.
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  5. #95
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    i'd rather have 0 ultimates

    it's just a waste of resources just to please 1% of the playerbase
    The number is far higher then that

    https://twitter.com/Bwin4L/status/1416720149634236417

    The highest clear rate server is a whopping 11%, or was as of this post. Probably higher by now. The average looks to be somewhere around 4-5%\

    Edit: And this is clears only, so overall participation (without clear) would be higher.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    The number is far higher then that

    https://twitter.com/Bwin4L/status/1416720149634236417

    The highest clear rate server is a whopping 11%, or was as of this post. Probably higher by now. The average looks to be somewhere around 4-5%\

    Edit: And this is clears only, so overall participation (without clear) would be higher.
    Worth noting that is also for TEA, which is probably the least cleared ultimate these days.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Worth noting that is also for TEA, which is probably the least cleared ultimate these days.
    Understandably so, it's a straight trauma without a good group.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  8. #98
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    Not everyone logs though so data is inaccurate.
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by EverQuest View Post
    Not everyone logs though so data is inaccurate.
    You only need 1 person out of a group of 8 to get logs, the percentage of 8/8 groups doing ultimate not logging it at all must be so small it can't even be counted as an exception.
    It's an abnormality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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