1 ultimate instead of 2 ?

[Nanne]

If you want a challenge that takes long I would suggest looking into soloing PotD or HoH. I think those are on average around 7 to 15 hours if I remember right. But of course those allow you to take breaks between the levels thankfully

[CaedemSanguis]

If you want a challenge that takes long I would suggest looking into soloing PotD or HoH. I think those are on average around 7 to 15 hours if I remember right. But of course those allow you to take breaks between the levels thankfully

Wiped at 180 for my first attempt

[Reimmi]

Better to have 2 unique fights than 1 you have to spend 15+ minutes reprogging in to get to where you wiped at
long ass fights are just annoying, the current ultimate times are fine

[Kaurhz]

Common sense is telling me that length doesn't not equate to difficulty, nor an attributor of it. But rather just results in it being attributed to a game of stamina more than anything else. Speaking on this though, didn't UCoB already have the feedback that it was too long an encounter?

I can't really see the appeal. Later in progression all you're doing is spending 20 minutes of your time just to see and progress the next mechanic. In a 2-3 hour raid day that's only 6-9 pulls.

[Nethereal]

I mean sure if they could release it along side the normal 2 ultimates why not.

Personally I might do it once/find a good group and self that shit for life, just me though.

Also OP is a triple legend fyi.

[hfang]

Also OP is a triple legend fyi.

...and that adds no credibility to what they're saying, just makes it even weirder for them to have such a take

I just want more difficult ultimates

I agree with you, more difficult ultimates would be cool, and i'm sure Dragonsong Ultimate will be harder than anything we have in the game right now -- but making the fights longer does not achieve that

[Nethereal]

...and that adds no credibility to what they're saying, just makes it even weirder for them to have such a take

I just brought it up because I find conversations like this disingenuous when people aren't being completely open about what their stance is and how invested they are in the conversation.

I.E.

Do you see an ultimate title/or ultimate weapon skins ?
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/11577662/

Trying to appear disengaged with the subject but actually actively participating in the background.

[Hezzlocks]

There's a reason why Nintendo bosses often has a rule of 3 instead of a rule of 6. At some point it's like, yeah ok I've proven I can do the mechanics, must I really keep doing the same thing over and over again?

Making a fight longer doesn't make the fight harder. It just makes it more mentally draining. Not saying all boss fights should be no longer than a Nintendo boss fight, obviously different games have different styles and appropriate lengths. But MMOs in particular generally should not last much more than 10 mins at most.

[Seraphor]

"Endurance" is difficult, sure. You can perform something skillfully, or you can endure a test over a longer time, both are "difficult" but theyre not the same and they don't offer the same sort of reward or sense of accomplishment.

[CaedemSanguis]

"Endurance" is difficult, sure. You can perform something skillfully, or you can endure a test over a longer time, both are "difficult" but theyre not the same and they don't offer the same sort of reward or sense of accomplishment.

there is a limit in execution difficulty for FF14
unless you make a mechanics with hundreads of patterns ?