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    Wyznberk Zwynbrodasyn
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    Please update the Squadron system.

    How can this feature be in the game so long and they haven't updated it at all? The AI is horrible. The tanks can't get aggro unless you tell them to engage every single enemy once which seems to take their AI 5 seconds to register the commands, the healers are terrible and won't even raise dead allies, they all stand in aoe's without a care in the world unless you tell them to disengage. My god, they even have skills from 2.0. You guys remember PLD's Flash?

    I have not tried the Trust system, but it sounds leagues better than the Squadron system. Please update it. It's a nightmare to use. I understand it's old content, but that's no reason to leave it in such a sorry state when there are new people coming into the game all the time and they may want to use them for leveling other jobs. Going through 10 runs just to get the Squat and Push-up emotes is one of the most grueling experiences I have ever had in this game.
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    They did update it, its called the Trust system.
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    They did update it, its called the Trust system.
    An upgrade implies improvement, not a nerf.

    Trusts are weaker, slower, inefficient, rarely AoE, stop attacking when avoiding mechanics, can't be customized, only have 1 glamour alternative.

    Squads can get stronger than the average DF player, kill decently fast, arcanists that double as aoe casters and back-up healers, do not stop attacking to avoid mechanics because they're literally immune to many of them or simply take reduced damage, have infinite glamour possibilities, and you can customize their damage/def/hp priorities.

    Squads also aren't used as a crutch/excuse for bad dungeon design because dungeons weren't designed specifically for them.
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 02-01-2022 at 12:04 PM.

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    I'd like them to be expanded to 70... Once you have the full set on Kindergartners all levelled up to 60 it's a bit of a dead end.



    Taking them to 70 would then let you move into trusts immediately.
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Another update I would like is add Viera and Hrothgar into the recruit list. Which I asked here. I want to have my barrack full of lionman!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I'd like them to be expanded to 70... Once you have the full set on Kindergartners all levelled up to 60 it's a bit of a dead end.

    Taking them to 70 would then let you move into trusts immediately.
    Agreed.
    Besides, there are some glams that I'd like to use on them which are Lv70! ..or between 65-70!
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    Last edited by einschwartz; 02-01-2022 at 01:05 PM.
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    Alhiri Visili
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    Only use Marauder, Archer(s) and Conjurer for dungeons, all of them on pure offense. Micromanage them a little for certain dungeons (e.g. Bad Breath in Aurum Vale), and they'll clear faster than your average DF group.
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    I use Marauder and they miss everyone when they Overpower so their enmity is useless. GLA and ARC are still leveling and can't do the current dungeon I need and my CNJ is level 60 already and they always leave me on deaths door when I'm tanking. I usually play healer when using this system because I can't trust the CNJ in the first place. I can only play Tank or Healer when using this system and each side has a downside to them that are just too big to ignore.

    I know I can change their classes, but I'm stubborn and want to keep them as they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination713 View Post
    ...when using this system because I can't trust the CNJ in the first place...
    If you are relying on Cecily (CNJ)... and she isn't good and often falls asleep at her post, you need an ACN running too to back up her heals. CNJ+ACN is ok heals, as long as you adjust and don't expect to pull wall-to-wall with them.

    As far as AOE's they are mostly immune, ignore that mechanic for them, don't micromanage.

    I know I can change their classes, but I'm stubborn and want to keep them as they were.
    Ah pity, it helps.

    I normally run a CNJ+ACN+THM and tank it. Save me needing to use the engage stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    If you are relying on Cecily (CNJ)... and she isn't good and often falls asleep at her post, you need an ACN running too to back up her heals. CNJ+ACN is ok heals, as long as you adjust and don't expect to pull wall-to-wall with them.
    I do have a ACN on the team and I swear they are the only reason I don't die as a tank to some of the more hectic boss fights. Usually my team is MRD, NIN, ACN, and CJN. Will most likely be switching out the MRD with GLA since Flash seems better at getting aggro compared to Overpower which doesn't make sense and will replace NIN with ARC once they get high enough level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination713 View Post
    I do have a ACN on the team and I swear they are the only reason I don't die as a tank to some of the more hectic boss fights. Usually my team is MRD, NIN, ACN, and CJN. Will most likely be switching out the MRD with GLA since Flash seems better at getting aggro compared to Overpower which doesn't make sense and will replace NIN with ARC once they get high enough level.
    ARC is pretty good, THM is slightly better I think because of their positioning in fights, the ARC does some real weird stuff with moving back, but yeah, that sounds like a good direction to head. Definitely move away from MDPS as soon as you can.

    And yes, when I am healing, I noticed GLA is better than MRD as well - but even with GLA, the ACN's pet can still peel agro, requiring target of the peeled mob and a command to focus.
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