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  1. #21
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I would like to have them reach all the way to 90 and be able to take Jobs and not just base classes...

    Maybe we can hope the Squadrons get an update the next time they decide to update Grand Companies, and considering they were last updated in Patch 4.4 maybe they are due an update.
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  2. #22
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    ARC is pretty good, THM is slightly better I think because of their positioning in fights
    I don't think I've ever actually had a THM in my squad. What's their AI like?

    (I don't think I've actually seen most of the squad class AI since I struggle to even want to take anything besides Arcanist...)
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  3. #23
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I would really, REALLY like to use the squadron I spent months finding (I got all the "unique" costume ones for the race/genders I wanted) and then once they could be glamoured, dressing and training for something other than yet another RNG item/currency daily "venture".
    Ultimately that’s all they really are though, since you can’t really use them for most content.

    I mean, could just roll them into the Scions then as customizable trust members. Or rewrite it so you are recruiting Scions with primal immunity.

    I’d rather see them hanging out in the rising stones than being tucked into that closet in gridania. But even then I haven’t touched squadrons in over a year aside from maybe glamours- if they were gone I wouldn’t notice a bit.

    Sometimes you just need completely gut things that don’t work in order to build something better. I think this could be better than a glorified set of dress up dolls.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 02-01-2022 at 03:02 PM.

  4. #24
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Ultimately that’s all they really are though, since you can’t really use them for most content.

    I mean, could just roll them into the Scions then as customizable trust members. Or rewrite it so you are recruiting Scions with primal immunity.

    I’d rather see them hanging out in the rising stones than being tucked into that closet in gridania. But even then I haven’t touched squadrons in over a year aside from maybe glamours- if they were gone I wouldn’t notice a bit.

    Sometimes you just need completely gut things that don’t work in order to build something better. I think this could be better than a glorified set of dress up dolls.

    I mean.. YES .. but.. I just want to comment that I invested a LOT into my squadron and as someone who was there for the rollout I would like that to have meant something even though I understand that means more investment in a mostly ignored system now.

    I still send them out everyday and have managed to have ALL of them with Gold Saucer Point chemistry and every once in a while I'll run a dungeon with them to finish a challenge or complete a wondrous tale.... seems like the promotion and rank system that was such a huge part of early "progression" in the game has just been abandoned.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  5. #25
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Alternatively:

    Remove squadron dungeon functionality entirely.
    Build the trust system to do all story content from the first dungeon (lv 16). Including the pre-50, 4 man trials (Garuda, etc).
    Utilize Edda’s party as trust members until the obvious, swapping for Scions (B squad Scions, like Hoary Boulder)
    Expand it to function in 8 man content, utilizing scion NPCs.
    Hell no. I love squadron while I can't stand 2 minutes with Trust.
    If anything I'd like squadron to be taken all the way up to be used instead of Trust.

    OP, squadron is clunky and irritating at first, but once you level them they're absolute powerhouses. They tend to clear packs before you can even touch them.
    There are some dungeons they're really bad at (like Copperbell Hard or WP Hard) but in most of them they're fine. AV is actually smooth with them, as opposed to DF, cause standing in crap does nothign to them, as they're immune to all kinds of effects.
    And you can get distracted and leave them to clear stuff on their own, unlike Trust where your death is a wipe.
    Just pull through. They do really well set on offensive, I think I have tanks and healers set on defensive and that makes them focus on tanking/healing more than on just dpsing, other than ofc making them harder to kill.
    They
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  6. #26
    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Please SE, I just want them all using each of Shisui gear...

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  7. #27
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Roes in speedos!
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  8. #28
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    AV is actually smooth with them, as opposed to DF, cause standing in crap does nothign to them, as they're immune to all kinds of effects.
    Eh, they still get caught by Bad Breath, which can still lead to wipes, but it's more because the healer gets distracted trying to Esuna everything and drops the ball on healing.
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  9. #29
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    At least to 70, would be nice
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  10. #30
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I personally like Trusts better in some ways -- they're better for folks who want to learn mechanics, and (my personal reason for enjoying them) they have more personality and interactions, both with each other and the dungeons. The only reason I use Trusts is to see those interactions.

    (Take Alphinaud, G'raha Tia, and Y'shtola into Matoya's Relict as a Trust, and pay attention to them leading up to the second boss of the dungeon, and immediately after that fight. It's great. I'm also deeply fond of Alphinaud's /shock emote and "Is... that a giant armadillo??" upon seeing the first boss of Malikah's Well. I'm told Alisaie will rage out at the boss being untargetable and carpet-bomb the entire arena with repeated Verholies during the first boss of the level 87 dungeon, too, if you take her in there in Avatar mode.)

    But Squadrons? I feel like they, along with your chocobo (i.e., the one you can bring out as a companion in overworld content), and possibly even to some degree bits of the current retainer system are like... maybe the various pieces of what they wanted the Path Companion system to eventually grow into becoming back in 1.x. And as frustrating as they can be at times, I do also think it'd be nice if Squadrons got a little more love and could approach that again. Make it so you can bring one of your Squadron members out in the field, as opposed to just your chocobo. Etc.
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