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    Job Quests!!

    I know that we recently were told that there would be no additional job quests for older jobs, and I agree the long stretch of doing 5-6 quests and creating a large story for each job is a daunting task when you account for all the jobs we have.

    But why can't we have the best of both worlds like we had in Shadowbringers? One max level job quest to further the story of the job and lore.

    I feel like DNC really missed a golden shining moment with us visiting Thavnair
    A level 90 SMN quest could explain how they are now suddenly able to call forth fully corporeal primals.
    AST would have its own big moment with us visiting Sharlayan

    Just so much missed opportunity I think. We dont need a full on 10-level chain like before, just a little happy follow-up.
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    I feel like the stories for the jobs are "done" and should be left alone.

    BUT (and I posted this elsewhere). I REALLY wish that they would have brought the characters from the job quests into the role quests of that type. I would have loved doing the Magical DPS role quest with ‎X'rhun Tia, Arya, Lalai, and Y'mhitra. It would be cool to see cross interaction between what are essentially some of the strongest non-Scions of their job.

    I personally think that was the way to go, so we can continue to interact with those characters and build their story out. I feel like 1 quest isn't really "enough" to do anything meaningful (now that the stories are concluded) and coming up with a quest line for each job has shown to be an "issue."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    I feel like the stories for the jobs are "done" and should be left alone.

    BUT (and I posted this elsewhere). I REALLY wish that they would have brought the characters from the job quests into the role quests of that type. I would have loved doing the Magical DPS role quest with ‎X'rhun Tia, Arya, Lalai, and Y'mhitra. It would be cool to see cross interaction between what are essentially some of the strongest non-Scions of their job.

    I personally think that was the way to go, so we can continue to interact with those characters and build their story out. I feel like 1 quest isn't really "enough" to do anything meaningful (now that the stories are concluded) and coming up with a quest line for each job has shown to be an "issue."
    But thats the thing, the stories really haven't been concluded. Each and every single one of them was open-ended at level 80. RDM especially. Multiple of them even talk about coming back to you if they needed something, or that you'd meet again. Saying that the story is "concluded" isn't really a valid argument to discontinue the quests. If that same thought process applied to the game as a whole, Endwalker would be the last expansion, and we know that isn't the case.
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    "We'll come to you if we need something." means that they are concluded. There are no outstanding issues with any of the job quest lines. Everything is finished. They were left open-ended if they wanted to bring them back, but there's no "cliffhangers" at all, the problems that all of them were having are solved

    The argument for not continuing the story is that the quality keeps getting worse and worse because they have 19 jobs that they need to write stories for. The idea of role quests instead is definitely better so that they can focus on writing good stories. I really don't want to see 19 job quests on the quality level of PLD quests.

    You're also using very bad examples. There's a difference between them having 5 patches and an entire expansion to START a new story line and having 1 quest to try to set up a reason to actually do a job quest. It would be unlikely they could sit down and come up with a compelling, single quest for each job because the stories are finished. that means they would need to, in this single quest:

    1. Come up with some problem
    2. Figure out how to fix that problem
    3. Have you try to resolve the problem
    4. Resolve the problem and reflect on it.

    That's too much story to put into the single quest that you're asking for, and it's too much work (they said as much) to create quest lines that do this for each job in the game. There's no content there to go to, they need to build it. You can build all of this in 5 patches and an expansion, you can't do it in 1 quest.
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    Having levelled up most of my jobs for DT, I was just thinking this. It feels like jobs from previous expansions are cast aside like unloved children.

    Every expansion should have a capstone quest for each job where we reunite with our friends and colleagues of old and catch up with them, like in ShB. I want to hit the streets of Limsa for Curious George's stag party, judge an archery competition at the Archers Guild, go on a dinner date with X'rhun and Arya, wander Old Sharlayan with Leveva for her homecoming. Short and sweet vignettes.

    Although yes, each expansion adds more jobs, so yet more vignettes, with ~3 years development time I would think this is achievable.
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    Job quests used to make sense. Now that we are the Warrior of Light and celebrated throughout Eorzea... what is there really left to teach us? Humility, I suppose.
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