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    Themule's Avatar
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    UNDERCUTTING....

    ...is getting really annoying.

    edit: ...is totally awesome! Turns out I actually LOVE spending hours reorganizing my retainers. It just took me 242 lodestone posts to realize it. Thx everyone!!.....
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    Last edited by Themule; 05-10-2012 at 04:29 PM.

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    WinnipegJet's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themule View Post
    ...is getting really annoying.
    A big hello from your friendly neighbourhood undercutter!
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    I wouldn't mind undercutting if there was a minimum amount you could undercut by. If I want to sell something for 20k and someone else is willing to take 15k for it, that's fine. But 19,999? Come on now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I wouldn't mind undercutting if there was a minimum amount you could undercut by. If I want to sell something for 20k and someone else is willing to take 15k for it, that's fine. But 19,999? Come on now.
    That's a standard practice of mine. It saves the buyer a gil and reduces tax by one too. Strangely some people appear to not be content with that and would prefer for someone to come along later and place the item up for one gil more so they can purchase that instead and claim the other as undercutting by a gil.

    Now there's a spin on the perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfire View Post
    That's a standard practice of mine. It saves the buyer a gil and reduces tax by one too. Strangely some people appear to not be content with that and would prefer for someone to come along later and place the item up for one gil more so they can purchase that instead and claim the other as undercutting by a gil.

    Now there's a spin on the perspective.
    Hah... What a moron. I just realized by stating that you do not support one-gil undercuts and will therefore buy the one priced a gil above will more likely save you money in the end, whether you lie or truly do. It's a trick for buyers to drag down prices.

    Something could be selling consistently for 1,000 over a period of time and seller A may decide to put the item up for 900. Seller B and C come along and set it for 850, so seller A changes the price to 849. A sharp buyer chooses to purchase 850s at varying intervals. Seller A sees this then sets his price to 800 instead, believing one gil under isn't supported by the community (even though it's just one guy), and then that smart shopper purchases those. Or some of those--depends on his aim.

    And from this point seller A now has a mentality to drop the price a decent amount, so future prices will be cheaper. Score one for the buyers.

    I find that trick cool in a way, but I'd despise the spreading of lies to pull it off. One, I hate lies, and two, I'd rather see it skillfully done.
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    Last edited by Soulfire; 05-17-2012 at 06:27 AM.

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    Under cutting by 1 gill I understand. I can even understand undercutting by 1% .

    I don't understand undercutting by +20%
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    Quote Originally Posted by KumaAkuma View Post
    Under cutting by 1 gill I understand. I can even understand undercutting by 1% .

    I don't understand undercutting by +20%
    ... when people undercut me by 1 gil i end up lowering the price by 20%, funny.

    edit: I.E: mythril wristlets i'm constantly getting undercut by 1 no matter the price i set 20k i get undercut by 1, i lower to 15k? they lower it to 14.9k and i only see 5-10 ppl who actually sell this. but it is like this for all the most liked SB equip., but still, very annoying.
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    Last edited by Tatsuguy; 05-09-2012 at 11:00 AM.

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    Agilo Sur
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    It is dumb, but just buy their shit and resell.
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    maybe you have time to constantly reprice stuff on your retainers, i dont. its not about the money, its about the hassle of this UI. i'm still rich, beeotch. ;-)
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    Yeah people do it purely to fuck with you. For example if you're the only one selling something, someone will pop up and undercut you by 5-8k or more at times even though you can make quite the profit.

    Last sold was 120k a few months ago and haven't been seen since in any market, so you start making it and sell it for 80k due to lower price on mats etc, someone pops up and decide "hey, I want to sell this too now!" and sell it for 20k.

    I mean really?
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