We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Siddiax]

A lot of the crafter gear would look great on casters. The heavensward culinarian set is practically a white mage outfit, the 90 gatherer set is an awesome looking casual wear.

But no, we can't glamour it for general use because reasons.

Oh, for sure a lot of the crafter/gratherer gear would look amazing on combat jobs. I personally would love to use the Swallowskin set on my MCH

[Iscah]

But most of the supporters of this idea also vouch for Job sets to remain restricted, so you wouldn't really see a Warrior in a White Mage iconic robe.

I still think the issue could be that they can't selectively omit certain things like job armour, and any release of glamour restrictions would be universal.

All or nothing, and there are lines they don't want to cross so they opt for nothing.

Are naysayers really going to tell me they have an encyclopedic knowledge of every set in the game ever and the role they're for now...?

I wonder if they genuinely ever picked up a job from another solely based on what they're wearing.

Honestly, I probably can. But glamour is "my thing" and my brain has particular skill in recalling useless facts and visuals.

[ty_taurus]

I still think the issue could be that they can't selectively omit certain things like job armour, and any release of glamour restrictions would be universal.

All or nothing, and there are lines they don't want to cross so they opt for nothing.





Honestly, I probably can. But glamour is "my thing" and my brain has particular skill in recalling useless facts and visuals.

The easiest solution may very well be to unlock glamour restrictions for all armor and just exclude weapons from the equation, and honestly, I really don't care if someone else wants to wear WHM robes as a WAR. It's not my character. What someone else wants to name their character or glam there character is none of my business, and I think it's kind of selfish for someone to say they don't want someone else to have the ability to do something. If you don't like the idea of a character running around in another job's armor, then don't wear that armor. I don't like the idea of fighting in a frog suit, but it doesn't mean it's okay for me to tell other people not to. I understand it to a point from a thematic standpoint, but I would hate if that were the one thing standing between us and accessing all the rest of the gear in the game.

That said, there is definitely a way to separate artifact gear. It's just about creating a new switch on gear of whether or not it can be universally glamoured, just like whether or not something can be traded on the MB, or if it can be put in the dresser, or if it can be dyed. There is some kind of switch on gear that lets you walk through that threshold into whatever lies beyond it, and it would be very easy to accomplish based on what we've seen already. The actual work would come into allowing gear to bypass role restrictions when used in glamour plates.

[Raikai]

I still think the issue could be that they can't selectively omit certain things like job armour, and any release of glamour restrictions would be universal.

Probably it would need a string of command to sort those out, but I'd assume this is not impossible, as we are seeing things nowadays without a precedent, like the level 90 relic armor sets that are dyable only under the condition of role quests clear (with a new padlock interface icon that we didn't see before). Also every time a new job is released they have to update the strings of code to accomodate them under the appropriate armor class.

They would also probably need a new string of code like "All Class Glamour" that is separate from "All Class" which means that is equippable - it would be problematic to have all items actually usable by all jobs at endgame.

This is all conjecture based on what I see, and they keep saying they make things nowadays that would be impossible in the past, so I can only hope that this detail can be under their coding grasp.

[Tsiron]

I personally think they're a huge waste since, as you said, there's very little opportunity to use them. If they were converted into exclusively Glamour gear that anyone could wear then that would probably convince me to try and level DoH/L, despite me not enjoying that side of the game.

I've mentioned it a few times in these threads, but Korean players can buy All Classes Replica versions of level... 70, I think? DoH/L AF gear off their Online Store, but can only use them if they've leveled said Jobs first. It's... kind of a scummier version of FFXI's solution, combined with how FFXIV tends to handle this kinda stuff (by introducing duplicate items stripped of stats)

[Siddiax]

What are anyone's thoughts on the crafter/gatherer exclusive gear? There aren't enough glamour plates for them all and since crafters share gear and gatherers share gear, I never see these sets. I could see them being unlocked as rewards for leveling that class or maybe completing some other objective to unlock them

They're pretty cool honestly, though I'd say the issue with the crafter/gatherer gear comes from the fact that we have a very limited amount of dresser slots and plates. It's just not really worth it to take up space that I would otherwise use for raid/dungeon gear for example. A neat way to solve this would be to let us toggle between the current plates we have now and ones dedicated purely for crafters/gatherers.

[rewd]

Artifact sets should be exclusive to their jobs, but everything else should have no restriction. Jobs with wildly different aesthetics (MCH and DNC, WHM and SGE etc.) share the same gear which means gear will rarely fit every job. It's even worse because the devs apparently don't know what variety means and jobs like WHM hold healer and caster gear hostage with their aesthetic.

I don't know what to do with ugly robes, dresses and skirts on my RDM. I'd rather get striking gear.

[CassandraJean]

This would be a very easy way to get me (and I assume many others) to play a lot of older content in order to collect gear sets for jobs that look cool but I never collected because I don't play those jobs.

[SamSmoot]

If we could do that, I'd immediately fantasia and start working on duplicating this: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Sadu_Dotharl Unfortunately, her gear isn't available for NIN.

[Tsiron]

If we can get one of these threads anywhere near as active as the male Viera one, then that would probably convince them to reevaluate whether it's worth putting work into or not (and hopefully in favour)