We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Enkidoh]

Like Papalymo and Ida, described as a thaumaturge and a pugilist, both wearing pieces for tanks. When added to the cash shop suddenly class doesn't matter, but strangely gender does.

That's because their specific designs originated in version 1.0 where there was no glamour system, but for players any piece of gear could be equipped regardless of your class, with some very few exceptions such as AF - you were very severely penalized stat wise if you equipped something that was not 'reccomended' for your class or if the level requirement was less or more than six levels from your actual level/class rank however as the trade-off.

Hence NPCs like the Archons also appeared in weird gear combinations because it was reflective of what players could also do in that, that they retained mostly into ARR even after the redesign in 1.0 when gear started to become more restrictive for players after Jobs were added. And that continued into ARR even before glamour was added to the game.

Gender locks are a different barrel of moogles, and it really doesn't have anything to do with actual gender, and is just pragmatism - designing gear for both genders means extra modelling to cover both, and if they can get away with a piece of gear being gender specific, they can then use that time to do something else, theoretically.

[MsQi]

That's because their specific designs originated in version 1.0 where there was no glamour system, but for players any piece of gear could be equipped regardless of your class, with some very few exceptions such as AF - you were very severely penalized stat wise if you equipped something that was not 'reccomended' for your class or if the level requirement was less or more than six levels from your actual level/class rank however as the trade-off.

Hence NPCs like the Archons also appeared in weird gear combinations because it was reflective of what players could also do in that, that they retained mostly into ARR even after the redesign in 1.0 when gear started to become more restrictive for players after Jobs were added. And that continued into ARR even before glamour was added to the game.

Gender locks are a different barrel of moogles, and it really doesn't have anything to do with actual gender, and is just pragmatism - designing gear for both genders means extra modelling to cover both, and if they can get away with a piece of gear being gender specific, they can then use that time to do something else, theoretically.

You give them too much credit. They are not thinking about game mechanics when designing NPC outfits. They have continued to do that long after 1.0 and I doubt scions would have trouble finding gear that doesn’t have penalties. If someone is a specific Job and connected to a Job quest, they will usually have a Job set because they at least need to pretend to care about those. But for everyone else it’s clear that they just doing what players would like to do; wearing it because they think it looks good.

Those outfits are mostly based on common items that that are already genderless. Only Ida’s shorts would require some work to fit males.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

That's because their specific designs originated in version 1.0 where there was no glamour system, but for players any piece of gear could be equipped regardless of your class, with some very few exceptions such as AF - you were very severely penalized stat wise if you equipped something that was not 'reccomended' for your class or if the level requirement was less or more than six levels from your actual level/class rank however as the trade-off.

Hence NPCs like the Archons also appeared in weird gear combinations because it was reflective of what players could also do in that, that they retained mostly into ARR even after the redesign in 1.0 when gear started to become more restrictive for players after Jobs were added. And that continued into ARR even before glamour was added to the game.

Gender locks are a different barrel of moogles, and it really doesn't have anything to do with actual gender, and is just pragmatism - designing gear for both genders means extra modelling to cover both, and if they can get away with a piece of gear being gender specific, they can then use that time to do something else, theoretically.

Most NPCs in Heavensward and Stormblood do not respect this rule and it has continued to this day. It's not simply an "ARR" thing.

[Shistar]

Most NPCs in Heavensward and Stormblood do not respect this rule and it has continued to this day. It's not simply an "ARR" thing.

Estinien wears a pair of BTN boots in Endwalker, when he's in his "off-duty" outfit. So jealous of him, because I adore those boots!

[Picothea]

I'm just here to say that I'm very much still looking for more glamour freedom. I will keep advocating for all-class Vanguard armor until it's real.

[Haru304]

There are ways... but they aren't abilities that a Jedi would know.

[Picothea]

There are ways... but they aren't abilities that a Jedi would know.

Well I HAVE heard of this Sith legend, but that just doesn't cut it, right? I want everyone to have that freedom, and be able to share it with others officially - and on consoles, too.

[MsQi]

There are ways... but they aren't abilities that a Jedi would know.

Ways that are ... unnatural?

[SKAshe]

I'd also like to point out again that this would allow many of us to free up space in our glamour dressers as well. I know for me it would save a ton of space.

The devs have made some good strides this patch and seem to be showing good effort in beginning to improve things. so it would be nice to see it here as well. The game has had a lot of quality of life improvements as well. Since this one should be easy to implement according to Yoshi P during the Dawntrail media tour, it seems like a logical one to do next.

Keep up the good work with the posts everyone. Lets see if we can get up to 300 pages for extra visibility.

[xbahax92]

Day #1285 still waiting for this to happen.