We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Kanehon]

idk when yoshi p said that but I'm sure it must have been years ago because nowadays with all the all-class glamour crafted gear and whatnot, everyone looks like everyone else
plus there is plate gear for casters/healers now, and robes for tanks
identifying jobs by their appearance has not been a thing for years. Just let people do what they want

Dawntrail Media tour, just last month.

[ovIm]

Dawntrail Media tour, just last month.

But... has he seen the last few PVP Season Pass armors? They are all classless level 1 full plate armors. We also have the Bozjan Armors designed after FFT Judges armor. So literally, a Black Mage can waltz into a dungeon wearing a full plate armor. Yoshi-P's argument literally has no merrit.

[Khutulun]

Dawntrail Media tour, just last month.

Honestly have rapidly begun to hate that reasoning of "we don't want Black Mage in full plate". Black Mage in full plate already exists, you already crossed that bridge last expansion! The visual of classes doesn't even matter at this point, most players seem to just dress up as mascots / media references or dress in modern/cyberpunk street clothes / bikinis/vacation outfits. FF14 has a fun cosmetic system full of many great and varied sets that allows for countless character themes, Square needs to stop ignoring the gold mine they're sitting on.

At least it sounds like the dev team is starting to crack on the reasoning though. If people speak up about it ceaselessly, it sounds like they'll eventually break. Kinda BS we need to wait in the first place, but maybe over the next few expansions we'll actually see some liberation on the glam system. People are going to need to scream from the hills, mountains, and towers though. Scream and never stop screaming till the devs get the message loud and clear.

[Bright-Flower]

Honestly have rapidly begun to hate that reasoning of "we don't want Black Mage in full plate". Black Mage in full plate already exists, you already crossed that bridge last expansion! The visual of classes doesn't even matter at this point, most players seem to just dress up as mascots / media references or dress in modern/cyberpunk street clothes / bikinis/vacation outfits. FF14 has a fun cosmetic system full of many great and varied sets that allows for countless character themes, Square needs to stop ignoring the gold mine they're sitting on.

At least it sounds like the dev team is starting to crack on the reasoning though. If people speak up about it ceaselessly, it sounds like they'll eventually break. Kinda BS we need to wait in the first place, but maybe over the next few expansions we'll actually see some liberation on the glam system. People are going to need to scream from the hills, mountains, and towers though. Scream and never stop screaming till the devs get the message loud and clear.

When it comes to job specific armor, like putting a black mage in dragoon artifact armor, I get it.

When it comes to the basic fending/maiming/striking/scouting/aiming/casting/healing sets though, they should get rid of glamour restrictions. 100% agreed.

https://i.imgur.com/TxCGfOn.png

They sank the 'role identity' argument years ago. By adding beach wear and smallclothes to the game. By adding emperor's new gear to the game. By adding the sky rat and shisui gear. By adding so much casual clothing, both reflecting in game cultures and more modern looking street clothes. By adding job neutral pvp armor and subscription reward sets.

And most of all, the mob station. Where you can pay money to buy more 'far eastern' clothing, character outfits like Lyse's dress and Omega F attire, silly holiday outfits and even armor. This is a line they crossed YEARS ago. I could buy the argument that decoupling 'can equip this gear' and 'can glam this gear' may be difficult to do behind the scenes in the code. But the idea of it confusing people if black mages aren't always identifiable as a caster etc is silly. Keep the restrictions for artifact gear and main/off hand items sure but this arguement falls flat for the vast majority of the game's gear.

[alfarini]

I agree, everything should be unlocked. We have pvp gear that a healer can wear and they look like a damn paladin (Furious deity set). The only thing that should be locked is artifact gear.

[Underscore]

Can you guess which jobs these are?



Every update to this game further invalidates the argument for keeping glamour restrictions.

[Sani2341]

Can you guess which jobs these are?



Every update to this game further invalidates the argument for keeping glamour restrictions.

Yes, but only bc I farmed two of em.

At least the Healer one will let me dress up my healer glams like my Shadowrun Rigger.

Still sucks mch does not get to use the soldiers rifles and armor.

[Raikai]

Can you guess which jobs these are?



Every update to this game further invalidates the argument for keeping glamour restrictions.

And it's wild because they added the same syle of gear (the PVP ones that the citizens of S9 wear) as all class glamour lol.

[CCheshire]

Can you guess which jobs these are?



Every update to this game further invalidates the argument for keeping glamour restrictions.

I just wanted to say at least let me dye the gear I like instead of locking the colors to jobs like I prefer the scouting and healing versions but sadly I only play casters and reaper which share the same model but terrible dye options.

[KisaiTenshi]

Can you guess which jobs these are?



Every update to this game further invalidates the argument for keeping glamour restrictions.

Disagree. Some of the glamor restrictions make sense, but realistically if the developers aren't going to make the gear actually follow the generic DnD logic of:
- Tanks wear heavy metal gear
- Melee wear leather or light metal
- Ranged DPS wear leather
- Casters wear cloth

Then the glamor restriction is silly. The above, all but the one on the right may as well be cloth, and the one on the right would be "heavy metal". Likewise the two on the left don't even look different and I would say it was caster gear, while the two in the middle don't look distinguishable from each other and I would say is DPS gear.

Contrast this with the Shisui gear from Stormblood. The fending and maiming gear are IDENTICAL except for the color. Striking and Scounting gear? wait what's that, they have the white mage skirt, and the aiming gear has the tank skirt? The casters have the long ribbons and the DPS caster has no skirt at all. Plus the cash shop version which is basically the dyable version of the scouting version. The socks on the leg gear is is also sus, Fending, Maiming, Striking and Casting have the same leggings but different colors, the scouting has the same ribbons and the white mage has odd color ribbons. Then look at the foot gear.

Like it's pretty obvious at a glance that sometimes they only make one "gear set" and just have different parts for each job type. In this case, yes I agree, there is no reason why the glamor restriction should apply when it's pretty clear the gear is the same. Compare the shisui set with the above and it's clear there is only "three" pieces for each. Not seven.