From a solely consumer standpoint...

[EverQuest]

The name Everquest brings back memories of corpse runs, hell levels and trains when they followed you to the zone line *blood runs cold*

That's the thing though everquest was inherently flawed in many ways and honestly did try and come up with new stuff.

FF14 doesn't really do that. I'm not sure why people think it's bait when more of the same is literally what this expansion is.

Granted Farmville is coming but it's still not in game yet. So I'd love to here the argument that they've really did something innovative this expansion.

MSQ value is subjective but getting a story is pretty much expected that's really the bare minimum requirement. Obviously everyone will have different opinions, but I'm pretty sure if you gave everyone a button they could hit for new innovative features and pve content to be added to the game or a more of the same button and a they had to do was hit the button (regardless of button story wouldn never ne compromised) they would hit the innovative button.

Perhaps I'm totally off base here, but there's many of us that have done raid content for example and honestly it's starting to feel like a been there done that environment. You can only rearrange the same handful of mechanics so many times.

Then you look at other systems like housing were its reaching one house per 200 players it's time to start making better and new systems for many areas of the game. I mean honestly you can't tell me whoever designed it thought it was a good idea.

Dungeons are reaching a point where tanks no longer need healers and healers don't need tanks. Pve content could use a refresh. Perhaps some 8 man dungeons multiple difficulty. (Things they did in the past) I highly doubt most if the community would be against more stuff to do.

[MsQi]

In terms of Context, we could have PvP servers, revamped PvP progression systems (like the upcoming progression systems) and reasons to PvP e.g. glam/mounts etc tied to open world if they wanted to. It's pretty clear they do not, but at least we can hope.

In wow, if a member of the Horde goes out in the world and attacks an Alliance member, they are a criminal to the Alliance while the people of the Horde might see them as a hero, or at least be indifferent.

In this game if a Gridanian goes out in the world and attacks an Ul'dahn they would be a criminal everywhere they go. Your PvP servers would have a totally different lore and geopolitical climate from the rest of the game.

[Eraden]

In wow, if a member of the Horde goes out in the world and attacks an Alliance member, they are a criminal to the Alliance while the people of the Horde might see them as a hero, or at least be indifferent.

In this game if a Gridanian goes out in the world and attacks an Ul'dahn they would be a criminal everywhere they go. Your PvP servers would have a totally different lore and geopolitical climate from the rest of the game.

Indeed. The closest we might have come to having two opposing factions is the Alliance vs the Garleans but to the best of my knowledge, you can not roll a Garlean citizen and the people of Garlemond have become, if not friends, then at least wary acquaintances of the people of the Alliance. Honestly, there is just no real reason for factions to be actually trying to kill each other. This is really not a game that relishes actual bloodthirsty competition (not quite sure about those crazy La Nosceans though).

[Raoabolic]

All I have to say is, wow SE, no Switch port? Really? Where is MY sub money going to?!

[Starshower]

I think as a game the base endwalker story and immediate endgame are worth the asking price, it's more than some single player games. But I do agree... I've been levelling my alt jobs, and I'm almost done with that. After that, what will I have to do? I've achieved most things in this game in shadowbringers already... There is very little for me to do. I could do stuff like grind hunts to get the new hunt mount (the canis pugnax) but that's it, just a grind. But I understand the value of the expansion also entails everything we'll get in the subsequent patches. I just can see myself having a 2 month content lull until 6.1 already. Good thing there are games I'm already looking forwards to playing until then, like Lost Ark and Warframe.


But it's understandable to be a bit disappointed if you're critical, this expansion didn't have any new content or system, it's basically the same endgame of the base shadowbringers, and that one added stuff like the extra hunt mount achievement and shared fates as new endgame content.

[Garnix]

People seem to forget that the main feature at expansion launch, aside from MSQ, is leveling.
I myself aim to have everything to 90 before the launch of 6.1, and I know many want to do the same, at a casual pace.
Having more content than that would put pressure on casual players who enjoy leveling at their own pace.
If they stop increasing the level cap (which I honestly hope they do at some point), then I will ask for more content at launch

[SavageCipher]

So you blind bought the content, with looking at any reviews or videos on it? Cool....less power to you, next time, do research on content that's OPTIONAL.

[hynaku]

Might get better if Microsoft buys out Square Enix one of these days like they did for others.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Nah it ain't but I'm not surprised someone with a basic ????? name like a FFX superfan would say that.
Good Day Senor

So you resort to insulting my name as a answer instead of just saying "No"
Great tactic btw.

[Kes13a]

Might get better if Microsoft buys out Square Enix one of these days like they did for others.

hard pass on that.

not sure a north american company buying a japanese game would result in an improvement you would desire.