Thread: 6.08 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Xuled

For the vast majority of you the numbers are fine. You won’t and aren’t raiding the high end while it’s relevant so just pick your flavor and enjoy it. The tears are unreal, I’ve seen less in League.

"Pick your flavor and enjoy it" I'm sorry but this is hugbear level of copium.
When playing your job, you should feel useful to the party. If the differences were minor, no problem.
But we talk about big discrepancy there.

I love MCH but I can't enjoy it because the job is nothing but a burden to the group
It doesn't brings healing, shielding, extra mitigation, it doesn't brings rDPS, it only brings DPS and it's garbage.

What's wrong with simply requesting to be useful to the group?

Originally Posted by CKNovel

"Pick your flavor and enjoy it" I'm sorry but this is hugbear level of copium.
When playing your job, you should feel useful to the party. If the differences were minor, no problem.
But we talk about big discrepancy there.

I love MCH but I can't enjoy it because the job is nothing but a burden to the group
It doesn't brings healing, shielding, extra mitigation, it doesn't brings rDPS, it only brings DPS and it's garbage.

What's wrong with simply requesting to be useful to the group?

MCH *does* bring mitigation - it's called tactician. In light party content, MCH will also be greater damage than both BRD and DNC by virtue of having fewer players for the more support-centric physical ranged jobs to buff. In a competent group, MCH *should* fall off against less selfish jobs. If the rest of the group isn't great, MCH would be the better option.

Originally Posted by CKNovel

Psst, hey, closer...
A bit closer...

EVERY RANGED HAVE TACTICIAN. They are named Troubadour and Samba, those are virtually role action. In this equation or ranged utility, MCH brings nothing more.
4 party content is non existant. Only dungeons are light party, trial, savage, ultimate, 24 man raid, Eureka/Bozja.
Only Deep dungeons and Dungeons are 4 man content, DPS don't matter, healing barely matters and most of the dungeon is aoe spam + 3 bosses.

Even in ShB, if you wanted to perform better than a Melee/casters, you needed to overgear the Melee/casters and them to perform poorly.

Hey...hey, psst...you shouldn't perform better than melee or casters

Originally Posted by Xaphire

Hey...hey, psst...you shouldn't perform better than melee or casters

Actually stop listening and open your eyes.
Where did I ever mentioned that I wanted MCH to be on par with melees or casters?
My point was that the "mobility tax" was insanely high that if a melee/caster was below a ranged, it meant the player had no idea how to play the job at all.
In any case we already established that mobility tax was a useless joke, especially in content like P1S, P2S and P4SP2, most of the hard content is 95%+ melee uptime.

Again for your pretty eyes:
I want to feel useful when playing MCH, be it damage or utility wise.

Originally Posted by Xaphire

Hey...hey, psst...you shouldn't perform better than melee or casters

to be fair, smn at this pojnt is barely a caster anymore and offers great value via rezz, and redmage while more of a caster than smn completly blows most classes out of the water as far as utility goes, so even when dealing the same damage as a physical ranged both would still be usefull...

Originally Posted by Xaphire

Hey...hey, psst...you shouldn't perform better than melee or casters

He never said anything about performing better than other roles. Great assuming and reading btw.. it shows you have no clue what you're talking about.