Thread: 6.08 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Xiu_Ye

This game has never been balanced around 50%ile and I think you're the one out of touch. You can maybe argue for 99%

This game has never been balanced...

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

From a balance perspective, they are irrelevant because none of that content is tuned remotely close to what the jobs are capable of. Case in point, if you outright deleted Bloodwhetting, TBN, Corundum and Shelltron. What changes? Absolutely nothing. The healers still spend 90%+ of their casts on the ST/AoE nuke.

Even mildly insinuating Expert is more important than Savage is completely laughable. I'd like to remind you they've readily been removing dungeons every expansion. Can't say the same about savage

Expert has literally been the last two dungeons for some time now. And you’re just being inane if you think removing those abilities won’t have an impact on expert. Savage raiders always thinks their content is the only content that matters when they’re in the minority. WoW has the same problems, optimizing for a minority of players. If savage is where they look at single target, expert is where they should look for aoe.

Originally Posted by Adils

Atleast you didn't lose anything..
[cries in dragoon]

I dont think the MCH hear your weak cries about a thether animation over the sound of their glaring issues...

Originally Posted by SDaemon

I dont think the MCH hear your weak cries about a thether animation over the sound of their glaring issues...

Well one of the main benefits of playing a game over MS excel is that it has visual elements that provide enjoyment rather than just being a bunch of numbers.

Originally Posted by Adils

Well one of the main benefits of playing a game over MS excel is that it has visual elements that provide enjoyment rather than just being a bunch of numbers.

And visually a majority of Dragoon abilities are flashier than a mch abilities, at least in my opinion. I've heard people talk about how flashy mch skills are and thats why "casuals love it" but as a mch main, our ability animations arent that amazing compared to other classes.

Originally Posted by Adils

Well one of the main benefits of playing a game over MS excel is that it has visual elements that provide enjoyment rather than just being a bunch of numbers.

Oh yeah about that.
The problem isn't that MCH damage are insanely low, it's that you are not useful to the party compared to BRD/DNC.

Visuals?
MCH got a cool shotgun... Only used in dungeons.
Chainsaw animation is often criticized as going to fast and barely noticeable.
Automaton Queen is bland and its super punch is a bland.

MCH got 3 new animations, DRG got 4 if you want to measure "visuals".

Gameplay?
Drill, Air Anchor and Buzzsaw are good design. However:
-MCH still spam 5 times in a row Heatblast where WAR&DRK got their spam phase reduced to 3.
-ShB Automaton Queen was press and forget. EW Automaton Queen is press and forget.
-EW Automaton Queen is now even worse because of its AI limitation. In short: It's not fun but even more frustrating to deal with.
-Wildfire is press and forget (You just chain with an Hypercharge like the many Hypercharge you had before)
-Flamethrower is still worth an emote, juste like Anatman and Oblation.

You're crying about a red tether?
Be thankful your job is fun to play and is useful to the party.

Originally Posted by SDaemon

Thats all well and good but the loss of a single tether visual doesn't degrade dragoons visual animations to the level of MS excel nor is it comparable to the mechanical and dps issues faces by MCH. Comes off a bit mocking to tell a group of players that literally got thrown table scraps that at least they didnt lose a tether animation.

Yes, atleast they didn't lose something that they enjoy for no reason. I don't think the game would be destroyed by increasing the range with the animation intact.