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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    MCH *does* bring mitigation - it's called tactician. In light party content, MCH will also be greater damage than both BRD and DNC by virtue of having fewer players for the more support-centric physical ranged jobs to buff. In a competent group, MCH *should* fall off against less selfish jobs. If the rest of the group isn't great, MCH would be the better option.
    Melee have Feint and casters have Addle, Tactician shouldn't be considered novel or unique utility. It's the bare minimum.
    MCH should deal more dmg than it does, or bring some more utility.
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    raelgun's Avatar
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    How does balancing some classes to be more on par with the rest make the content easier?

    Cause PLD and DNC being gated out of savage cause of their trash damage was totally fun and exciting and challenging instead. And other such things.
    Some jobs needed buffs, others didn't and reaper just needed a nerf. This means that content doesn't receive an indirect nerf which is what happens when you buff most DPS jobs.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Some jobs needed buffs, others didn't and reaper just needed a nerf. This means that content doesn't receive an indirect nerf which is what happens when you buff most DPS jobs.
    Pray tell me, outside of obvious Monk, which jobs that got buffed didn't need buffs?
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Thank goodness you're not a dev.
    So you are happy content gets a nerf?
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Pray tell me, outside of obvious Monk, which jobs that got buffed didn't need buffs?
    Most DPS jobs, they only looked rough when compared to reaper, remove reaper from the list then most jobs fall into where they were.

    It's reaper that skews the data for others.
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Most DPS jobs, they only looked rough when compared to reaper, remove reaper from the list then most jobs fall into where they were.

    It's reaper that skews the data for others.
    Are you sure that just isn't people that are just bad at those jobs?
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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Character
    Mizuru Goh
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Imagine demanding that RDPS or a support DPS do the same or even better damage than a melee dps ( MNK,SAM ,NIN) or BLM.

    Stunning
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    Character
    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Beeing worse then SMN DPS wise is hard right now... *cough* *cough* but hey BRD can have Utility, BUffs AND DPS but MCH are NOT ALLOWED to dps
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    Character
    Fueisu Hope
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Most DPS jobs, they only looked rough when compared to reaper, remove reaper from the list then most jobs fall into where they were.

    It's reaper that skews the data for others.
    Idk where you're getting that idea. Reaper isn't even the highest dmg job before this. It was monk. And monk got buffed somehow. I'm very curious how you're coming to this conclusion
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    Sunleth Waterscape
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    Moogle
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...848e8fb1c3aaf7

    Congratulations, you give a tank that is already operating really good and buff it while two other tanks are still an abomination, and one remains literally so useful it needs no healer in a duty. While you are at it, give him a buff on the one thing it rarely uses, LOL.

    Healers untouched (shocker - why do we have those again? Oh yeah, those abominations). DPS buffed (again, shocker). Glad to see DRG get a little something, but RPR is still whippin' that booty.
    honestly you clearly don't know what you are talking about ...
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