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  1. #91
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    Xaphire's Avatar
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    Aeonna Calvados
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    "Pick your flavor and enjoy it" I'm sorry but this is hugbear level of copium.
    When playing your job, you should feel useful to the party. If the differences were minor, no problem.
    But we talk about big discrepancy there.

    I love MCH but I can't enjoy it because the job is nothing but a burden to the group
    It doesn't brings healing, shielding, extra mitigation, it doesn't brings rDPS, it only brings DPS and it's garbage.

    What's wrong with simply requesting to be useful to the group?
    MCH *does* bring mitigation - it's called tactician. In light party content, MCH will also be greater damage than both BRD and DNC by virtue of having fewer players for the more support-centric physical ranged jobs to buff. In a competent group, MCH *should* fall off against less selfish jobs. If the rest of the group isn't great, MCH would be the better option.
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  2. #92
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    Xiu_Ye's Avatar
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    Character
    Fueisu Hope
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    “Buff these jobs” - GCBTW
    “Ok” - Yoshi-P
    “NO NOT LIKE THAT!” - GCBTW

    For the vast majority of you the numbers are fine. You won’t and aren’t raiding the high end while it’s relevant so just pick your flavor and enjoy it. The tears are unreal, I’ve seen less in League.
    What is the point of you posting? You're saying it's fine for most people. But acknowledge on higher end there is an imbalance, which justifies their complaints. People aren't complaining about jobs that they wanted buff being buffed, their complaining about already exceeding classes being buffed. So you just want to put down people that aren't good at the game? While assuming who clears when and plays at what level? Let people advocate for good things instead of putting people down.
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  3. #93
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    MCH *does* bring mitigation - it's called tactician. In light party content, MCH will also be greater damage than both BRD and DNC by virtue of having fewer players for the more support-centric physical ranged jobs to buff. In a competent group, MCH *should* fall off against less selfish jobs. If the rest of the group isn't great, MCH would be the better option.
    Melee have Feint and casters have Addle, Tactician shouldn't be considered novel or unique utility. It's the bare minimum.
    MCH should deal more dmg than it does, or bring some more utility.
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  4. #94
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    Teno's Avatar
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    Character
    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    they could nerf things. but oh no that would provoke a shit-storm because nobody thinks reaper is too strong.
    Thank goodness you're not a dev.
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  5. #95
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    raelgun's Avatar
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    Character
    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    How does balancing some classes to be more on par with the rest make the content easier?

    Cause PLD and DNC being gated out of savage cause of their trash damage was totally fun and exciting and challenging instead. And other such things.
    Some jobs needed buffs, others didn't and reaper just needed a nerf. This means that content doesn't receive an indirect nerf which is what happens when you buff most DPS jobs.
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  6. #96
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    raelgun's Avatar
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Thank goodness you're not a dev.
    So you are happy content gets a nerf?
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  7. #97
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    Character
    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Some jobs needed buffs, others didn't and reaper just needed a nerf. This means that content doesn't receive an indirect nerf which is what happens when you buff most DPS jobs.
    Pray tell me, outside of obvious Monk, which jobs that got buffed didn't need buffs?
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  8. #98
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Pray tell me, outside of obvious Monk, which jobs that got buffed didn't need buffs?
    Most DPS jobs, they only looked rough when compared to reaper, remove reaper from the list then most jobs fall into where they were.

    It's reaper that skews the data for others.
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  9. #99
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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Character
    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Imagine demanding that RDPS or a support DPS do the same or even better damage than a melee dps ( MNK,SAM ,NIN) or BLM.

    Stunning
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  10. #100
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    Character
    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 18
    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Most DPS jobs, they only looked rough when compared to reaper, remove reaper from the list then most jobs fall into where they were.

    It's reaper that skews the data for others.
    Are you sure that just isn't people that are just bad at those jobs?
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