Hey so I use battle macros

[HollyJolly]

Hello ^^ I use macros for all my dungeon stuff because I was told before like u gotta push all these buttons and I just wasnt pushing them because like i'm not pushing that many buttons.

Examples are like my dancer I just didnt push things and I just used the aoe and didn't use fan dance or the special dance at all.

I didn't use my dark knight stuff because I just wasn't going to push all the buttons.

The only thing I didn't macro into button was my white mage because I couldn't figure out how because its just always changing what I need to push.

So like I got my macros for my dancer and my monk and my dark knight now and they do like all the things that people want to do.

I have a healy button for my dark knight that does all the reduction things and a lunar button for my monk and a solar button for my monk and my dancer if fan dance is up then my macro will automatically do fan dance.

But when I tell people about them they get really angry and are like you can't do macros because its not how the game is played? I see like macros is ment to be used because they made some so you can do that? Like I don't really understand why people get so upset because I got the idea from PVP where some of the buttons are combined into one button and I thought wow thats a great idea so I did that with macros?

People in my novice network kick me out of it because I talk about macros sometimes? They call me a liar because they don't believe a macro can do a good job? They tell sprouts that I'm bad because I use a macro? Like where is this witch hunt coming from?

I just use what the game got me and I got the idea from the designers to put more than one button into one button? Its a great idea so now instead of 20 buttons I have 9 buttons to push and it does a good job?

Can you please make them stop harassing me? Like I feel like just because I say I'm macroing all my buttons they turn me into a big witch on a bon fire who need to be burned??

Thank you so much and I'm sorry to bring this up but I'm tired of them and I really love ur game is so cute!

[Casti_EL]

If you're genuinely been harassed in-game by individuals it's better to use the report tool in-game, having a generic "Please stop people harassing me" in the forums won't do anything aside from looking like you're just here to troll.

That said, I saw some of your posts in a thread about SAM Macros and you get a bit overly defensive/borderline rude when people point out that Macros are not the best way to play the game:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...278-SAM-macros

Its so much easier then having so many buttons, but people hate you if you do it because they are haters for no reason

.

You guys with ur imaginary % numbers and stuff are just making things up to hurt people who genuinely ask for help with a problem that can easily be fixed with a macro.

Lol excuse me?

I'm probably the games best player lol

Obviously you're free to play the game how you want, (as is everyone) but if you're getting upset/defensive/rude about using macros when someone has explained why they are not an optimal tool for battle classes then be prepared to take some flak for it.

[HollyJolly]

Yeah I get it, but like my keyboard goes to 1-0 and my controller is like 8 buttons so like if theres more than that then I wont push it?

So if I can make a macro thats gonna make my buttons less then I can push them and it will do the same thing other people do why do they hate it??

Like... I just don't understand?

Sometimes they say something like "U cant do Extreme with macros" And I did extreme before and its not about what buttons I am pushing but its about knowing where to move when the boss does this or that and thats what people need to know, u can like watch all the videos thats how people beat that one.

So why do they always attack me when I tell them I'm not pushing 20 buttons I'm pushing 5 buttons?? Like... WHY

[RicaRuin]

Macros are very prone for errors, which would result in you doing less DPS, thus dragging the team down. Also Macros aren't really flexible or able to do 'if' cases, so even if you put all your skills on Macros, it would be a worse performance than just pushing the buttons yourself. People just want you to pull your own weight, and if you don't like pushing buttons... than maybe the game isn't for you, and I mean that in the kindest way possible.

I got to ask - does your DRK macro really use all the defensive skills at once? Because it would make me scream, stacking all the cooldowns at once is not the way to play Tank.

Edit: I took a look at a mystical place and you really should reconsider using those macros, they really make you perform... less than stellar.

[Seraphor]

and my controller is like 8 buttons so like if theres more than that then I wont push it?

One controller hotbar is 16 buttons, and you can very easily make that 32 with either the WXHB system, or the expanded hotbars. (you could even use both for 48 buttons, but that could be a bit overkill for combat)

The odd macro here or there you can get away with, but if you're macroing three-quarters of your kit (everything after the first 8 buttons) then you're going to be significantly hindering your gameplay.
I'm not even talking about optimisation for high end content, that's about timing, and avoiding clipping, etc. If you're flat out not using skills, then you're hardly playing at all, and everyone else in your party will feel it.
And to be frank, are you having any fun when you're just spamming the same skill over and over?

Dancer is by far the most pointless job to macro, nearly all of its damaging skills fit onto the 16 face buttons, and you can throw all of your utility onto the WXHB/expanded.

If you absolutely HAVE to macro multiple skills, and you're not concerned about GCD clipping because you don't do high end content, be clever about it.
Macro a GCD to an oGCD, with the GCD triggering first. This will allow you to use that button for two skills depending on if the GCD is on cooldown. Or a procced skill to an always-available skill. For example, Bloodspiller and Edge of Shadow. When you can use Bloodspiller that will go first, when you can't (GCD is on cooldown or you have no Blood gauge) then you can use Edge of Shadow. Likewise for Quietus/Flood of Shadow.

Absolutely do not throw all of your mitigation skills onto one button. You will die. But, you could potentially set them up in pairs, because chances are you will be using a couple at a time during dungeon pulls/tank busters. Arms Length and Rampart could potentially pair well, as well as The Blackest Night and Oblation for tank busters. However there's a big issue here, in that in order to get this macro to work properly, you will need to add in a 1 second wait between actions. Given that you use so many macros, every time you use another macro after this one, you'll interrupt that 1 second wait period and halt the macro. This is why it's such a big problem to macro so many things.

[Garnix]

Maybe just stop telling people that you are using macro and nobody will complain, they will just notice that your damage output is too low, but that's not an issue.
I don't see the point bragging about this...
I also rarely see players bragging because they are doing a perfect rotation. Just do your thing.

And of course if you are looking for advice on something that is generally not advised, the advice you will get is not to do it.
I mean, if you are driving and for some reason decide that you won't use the blinkers to indicate where you will go, and then brag about the fact that blinkers are not necessary, I would hope people tell you that you should use your blinkers...

[Coletergeist]

Tbh, I can only see this thread as bait.
What is the point to this thread being made other than wishing for an echo chamber? Because you surely won't get that.

[Casti_EL]

Yeah I get it, but like my keyboard goes to 1-0 and my controller is like 8 buttons so like if theres more than that then I wont push it?

Seraphor covered the controller side of things. With regards to Keyboard - a standard PC keyboard has about 104 keys on it. You can bind almost any key on that keyboard (for arguments sake let's just use alpha-numeric only = 36 keys), now if you use modifier keys as well (Alt, Ctrl, Shift) that gives you 144 combinations. For my setup I have 1-6 as Single-Target DPS abilities, ALT+1-6 for AoE Abilities, QERTY as Defensive Cooldowns, and ALT+QERTY as Offensive Cooldowns. Anything else is on my MMO Mouse (Numpad 1-6, ALT+Numpad 1-6). I can fire off any ability on any job without macros and having to barely move my hands.

So if I can make a macro thats gonna make my buttons less then I can push them and it will do the same thing other people do why do they hate it??

Like... I just don't understand?

Except it doesn't do the same as other people. Yes, you can fire off the same skills and (in some capacity) in a rotational order but you will be clipping, missing Procs, interrupting yourself, etc which results in lower dps than others. Plus, not everything in the game is about a perfect rotation - there are times you need to adapt, change things up a bit and Macros don't let you do that.

Example: I once knew a player who had a macro that did the following on WHM: Cure 1 > Cure 2 > Cure 3 (this was early in the game - around lvl 42 or something). They had a hard time in parties and couldn't understand why until I pointed out that the macro restricts the playstyle. So, tank takes a few hits, needs a good heal - WHM starts his macro and casts Cure 1 then hits it again to get Cure 2, tank takes a few more hits while Cure 2 is casting and dies. It took around 6-7 seconds from the player realizing they needed to cure the tank to the cure 2 been casted. If they hadn't used the macro they could have cast Cure 2 in less than half that time and saved the tank. That player never used macros for battle classes again and went on to be a great healer (partied with him in a lvl 80 dungeon some months later - he remembered me and thanked me for my advice).

[Tlamila]

It has to be bait, I can't explain it otherwise.